Malik

[MarketingBully]

Stans first year--20-13 8-8 in the SEC went to the NIT

Howland-14-17 and 7-11

Just because you asked.

All players Stans recruited jack ass. If Howland had players he recruited for his first year coaching a team do you think he finishes 14-17?

[tcdog70]

He went 20-13 his first season with all players he recruited and had already coached. The next year Stans went 14-16 when a senior lead team from the year before had all graduated. There really isn't any comparison in Stan's first couple of years here vs Howland's. I think Howland will have a similar season this year to Stans' first year where he wins 20+ games and has a borderline NIT/NCAA team. I think we definitely have the better coach in Howland and in the long run he will have more success then both Stansbury and Williams. I think these Stans peeps are really barking up the wrong tree. I got it with Rick "Welcome to the Shit Show" Ray but to continue spewing bullshit now that Howland is here is just stupid as shit.

look MB I am not spewing anything against Howland-I think he will be great--i am all for Him. he is the best possible Coach we could hope for. I am just waiting to see if he does indeed win. And you also , as you have said --THINK--he will be better. Right now It is just an opinion. The same as Mine. I THINK he will be also----but there is "Many a Slip between the Cup and the LIP".

[MarketingBully]

irrelevant why is that-because you say so? There is no where better to win at basketball than UCLA. It is a top 5 job in college basketball. I guess you think Dan Mullen couldn't win more games at Ohio State than he does at MSU. Only a moron couldn't see it is very relevant.

Let me think. Every coach that has been at UCLA since Wooden has been fired. Coach Howland is second all time in wins at UCLA and did something there (going to three straight final fours) that hadn't been done since Wooden. They have only won one national title since Wooden retired. Alford will be fired soon as well and so will the next coach. Wooden has left a shadow not even Bear Bryant could touch. They have some unrealistic stupid fans.

[tcdog70]

All players Stans recruited jack ass. If Howland had players he recruited for his first year coaching a team do you think he finishes 14-17?

Jackass, now you have to go call names like a 5th grader. 61 asked for the record and I posted it. I don't know what Ben would have done. I think He will win big time next year. All I know is that before the season started several people thought Ben with a bunch of seasoned veterans and Malik would have a winning season. he did not-for whatever reason. a third of the way through the season our team couldn't defend your Grandmother. But they did get better by the end of the season.

[tcdog70]

Let me think. Every coach that has been at UCLA since Wooden has been fired. Coach Howland is second all time in wins at UCLA and did something there (going to three straight final fours) that hadn't been done since Wooden. They have only won one national title since Wooden retired. Alford will be fired soon as well and so will the next coach. Wooden has left a shadow not even Bear Bryant could touch. They have some unrealistic stupid fans.

ah, at last we agree. But they are still a top 5 job in college basketball.

[MarketingBully]

Jackass, now you have to go call names like a 5th grader. 61 asked for the record and I posted it. I don't know what Ben would have done. I think He will win big time next year. All I know is that before the season started several people thought Ben with a bunch of seasoned veterans and Malik would have a winning season. he did not-for whatever reason. a third of the way through the season our team couldn't defend your Grandmother. But they did get better by the end of the season.

I'm calling you names because I think this argument has to be the most rediculous one I have ever seen on a message board. Howland is far and away the most decorated coach we have ever hired in any sport so that would automatically make him better then Stansbury. I'm getting like Engie here because this is just dumb. Also, how were we supposed to know that for at least half the season the Rick Ray seniors weren't buying into the system and creating chemistry issues. As a fan, it's kind of hard to predict that. This year will be different. Most to all the Ray stink is finally gone and this is a new team.

[tcdog70]

I'm calling you names because I think this argument has to be the most rediculous one I have ever seen on a message board. Howland is far and away the most decorated coach we have ever hired in any sport so that would automatically make him better then Stansbury. I'm getting like Engie here because this is just dumb. Also, how were we supposed to know that for at least half the season the Rick Ray seniors weren't buying into the system and creating chemistry issues. As a fan, it's kind of hard to predict that. This year will be different. Most to all the Ray stink is finally gone and this is a new team.

note to you. Glad to talk some hoops. We actually agree on Howland. But if I thought you were a jackass or an idiot , I would not call you on it sitting here behind my keyboard. But face to face--maybe.

[QuadrupleOption]

I'm calling you names because I think this argument has to be the most rediculous one I have ever seen on a message board. Howland is far and away the most decorated coach we have ever hired in any sport so that would automatically make him better then Stansbury. I'm getting like Engie here because this is just dumb. Also, how were we supposed to know that for at least half the season the Rick Ray seniors weren't buying into the system and creating chemistry issues. As a fan, it's kind of hard to predict that. This year will be different. Most to all the Ray stink is finally gone and this is a new team.

I'm not sure why pointing out facts makes me a 'retard' but whatever.

[dawgs]

Jesus, this thread.

[Dawg61]

61-don't go to calling people shitty little names. I don't like it when they blast you, so don't be a jerk. It is just someone's opinion, we all want Ben to take us to Glory.The only true way to compare the 2 coaches is by what they do at MSU. Let's see what Ben can do. All RS did is win more games than anyone in our History. Saban has been Hell on wheels at LSU and Bama but he suxed at Miami. Compare apples to apples.

Hey bro he asked for it by comparing me to an Old Misses fan. To brush off Howland's #6 rated class and his ability to sign basically the highest rated player we've ever had in less than a month is bullshit. Yes we all hate recruiting but come on dude you can't just ignore awesome recruiting like that. We've never had that before. Howland has 9 4* players on the team this year. NINE!!

[Gutter Cobreh]

I'd bet money he's a better player than Robert Westbrook right now.

Are you sure about that? Word on the street is Robert is tearing up the rec. league right now? Lol