Malik

[tcdog70]

Really? You're really going to go there. Oh you mean the under achieving team (us) who was preseason ranked #18 that lost to Rider to start the season meanwhile UCLA was unranked at the time. We had much more talent on our team then UCLA did at that time.

Thanks, exactly we beat them at Pauly with a team that got Stans Shitcanned. So are you saying Howland was a shitty recruiter? We lost to Rider but went to LA and beat a UCLA team.

[tcdog70]

Yeah I would take Bost over Malik all day. Particularly if we are talking about as a PG. Hell, I would rather have Jamont as my PG than Malik.

Shit I would love to have a Bost or a J-money right now. refresh Me but weren't both of them 1st team All-Sec??

[tcdog70]

Those three Final Fours he took us to, were awesome, too!
Wait, those were Elite Eights?
No? Sweet Sixteens, right?
Awe, those trips only made it to the 2nd round...

When Rick had our boys in New York, in the NIT Final Four (06-07), Howland had his in Atlanta, for the REAL Final Four for the 2nd of 3 straight.

I like Stans. But there is absolutely no comparison.

#JustSayin

when Ben equals what Stans did at MSU, I will agree. As of right now Stans is the better coach at MSU. Makes you wonder why UCLA would fire such a wonderful Coach and nobody else would hire Him till We did.

[tcdog70]

Crooms beat Saban once too

so did La Monroe and left in yellow school buses. But also UAB whipped that Saban ass

[thf24]

Shit I would love to have a Bost or a J-money right now. refresh Me but weren't both of them 1st team All-Sec??

I loved watching Dee play, but he wouldn't last very long under Howland if he tried to pull the same shit in the locker room he did while he was here.

[MarketingBully]

when Ben equals what Stans did at MSU, I will agree. As of right now Stans is the better coach at MSU. Makes you wonder why UCLA would fire such a wonderful Coach and nobody else would hire Him till We did.

LOL, I am speechless at the idiocy of what you just typed. I have no doubts you have great opinions in other areas but to say Stansbury is a better coach then Howland is just plain dumb.

[shannondawg]

I hope Stansbury does get him. Like I said, I never disliked Stans and actually liked him as a coach and person. However, when comparing him to Howland there is no comparison. Coach Howland is tons better in all facets. I am happy where our program is. Wish nothing but the best for Stansbury and Malik!

Why even get in a Howland vs Stansbury argument, that could go on to the end of the internet and not be solved. This whole thread was about Malik and whether his going to wky was a good thing or not. I know it would be good for Stansbury to get his talent, and hopefully for Malik as well. Maybe Horatio will stay his ass in Jackson or wherever and let those that coach coach.

[MarketingBully]

Thanks, exactly we beat them at Pauly with a team that got Stans Shitcanned. So are you saying Howland was a shitty recruiter? We lost to Rider but went to LA and beat a UCLA team.

That team didn't get Stans shit canned. Renardo Sidney got Stansbury shit canned.

[MarketingBully]

Why even get in a Howland vs Stansbury argument, that could go on to the end of the internet and not be solved. This whole thread was about Malik and whether his going to wky was a good thing or not. I know it would be good for Stansbury to get his talent, and hopefully for Malik as well. Maybe Horatio will stay his ass in Jackson or wherever and let those that coach coach.

My point was I'd rather have Howland then Stansbury and we ended up getting a better coach in the end. I was happy how everything worked out. That was my point.

[coastdoglover]

That team didn't get Stans shit canned. Renardo Sidney got Stansbury shit canned.

correct and Stans told me that. Wish both Ben and Rick success and no use debating any further.

[shannondawg]

I know that and at this point I agree his resume up to this point is certainly better, and am very happy with Howland and hope that it proves out very well to our satisfaction.

I should have just put in that statement Howland vs Stansbury as related to MSU cause at this point there is nothing to compare.

My point was I'd rather have Howland then Stansbury and we ended up getting a better coach in the end. I was happy how everything worked out. That was my point.

[tcdog70]

My point was I'd rather have Howland then Stansbury and we ended up getting a better coach in the end. I was happy how everything worked out. That was my point.

I love Howland and hope He does for us what he did at UCLA. But is is alot easier to recruit at UCLA than MSU. We all think Ben will lead us to Glory---but He hasn't done it yet. I just hate we had to endure Rick Ray to get Ben.

[tcdog70]

LOL, I am speechless at the idiocy of what you just typed. I have no doubts you have great opinions in other areas but to say Stansbury is a better coach then Howland is just plain dumb.

don't twist my words. I said Stans has a better record at MSU than Howland. Comparing what you do at UCLA and What you can do at MSU is not a fair comparison. I just pointed out that Stans beat Howland at Howland's home court. Who has the better winning percentage at MSU? I certainly hope Ben takes us to 4 final fours. But I still can't figure why would UCLA fire Him--that is Idiocy.

[shannondawg]

They probably had a elitebruins message board.

don't twist my words. I said Stans has a better record at MSU than Howland. Comparing what you do at UCLA and What you can do at MSU is not a fair comparison. I just pointed out that Stans beat Howland at Howland's home court. Who has the better winning percentage at MSU? I certainly hope Ben takes us to 4 final fours. But I still can't figure why would UCLA fire Him--that is Idiocy.

[JoseBrown]

I'm gonna take this back to Malik. As the season progressed last year I saw no passion in his eyes, no aggression in his play. He was a player that seemed to either doubt himself or be pouting on the court. The team seemed to play much better without him on the court for the most part. I think the situation he expected, dad was trying to make happen and maybe the injuries all got to him and really showed in his play. To be that heralded and do almost nothing on the court was very surprising to me. I like Howland and have always liked The Big Train, but I lost a little respect for H when he started blaming Howland for Malik's lack of play. Maybe he'll get his passion back and turn out to be all he wants to be, but for our team I'm glad they're gone.

Maybe that doesn't sound to well for Malik. I don't mean it to come across that bad, just trying to illustrate what I saw. He did have some good times on the court, but as the season went I found myself wanting him on the bench more. And I say that with all due respect to him.

If he's gonna be the next Derrick Rose or Robert Westbrook, aside from fundamentals, he's gonna have to put a lot more effort into his craft.

[maroonmania]

when Ben equals what Stans did at MSU, I will agree. As of right now Stans is the better coach at MSU. Makes you wonder why UCLA would fire such a wonderful Coach and nobody else would hire Him till We did.

Because UCLA in basketball in like AL in football. Their fans and administration feel like if you aren't competing for a NC every year then you are a garbage coach. I know UCLA hasn't sniffed at a championship since Howland left though. That should say something right there. And look at the level of talent Howland is bringing in. Stans may have been "the recruiter" but all of his classes pale in comparison to what Howland and staff are bringing in this year with their first full class.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

If he's gonna be the next Derrick Rose or Robert Westbrook, aside from fundamentals, he's gonna have to put a lot more effort into his craft.

I'd bet money he's a better player than Robert Westbrook right now.

[maroonmania]

I'm gonna take this back to Malik. As the season progressed last year I saw no passion in his eyes, no aggression in his play. He was a player that seemed to either doubt himself or be pouting on the court. The team seemed to play much better without him on the court for the most part. I think the situation he expected, dad was trying to make happen and maybe the injuries all got to him and really showed in his play. To be that heralded and do almost nothing on the court was very surprising to me. I like Howland and have always liked The Big Train, but I lost a little respect for H when he started blaming Howland for Malik's lack of play. Maybe he'll get his passion back and turn out to be all he wants to be, but for our team I'm glad they're gone.

Maybe that doesn't sound to well for Malik. I don't mean it to come across that bad, just trying to illustrate what I saw. He did have some good times on the court, but as the season went I found myself wanting him on the bench more. And I say that with all due respect to him.

If he's gonna be the next Derrick Rose or Robert Westbrook, aside from fundamentals, he's gonna have to put a lot more effort into his craft.

I'm sure it was frustrating for H not to see Malik not perform as expected in his first year in college so he was looking for some excuse as to why BUT to blame Howland when Ben tried out every option with Malik was just wrong. Malik DID play some point guard, Malik DID get to drive to the basket and yes he DID play 2 guard and take perimeter shots. Fact is, the only time Malik really helped our team was when he was sitting outside shooting perimeter 3 pointers. But of course that is what Horatio complained about.

[War Machine Dawg]

when Ben equals what Stans did at MSU, I will agree. As of right now Stans is the better coach at MSU. Makes you wonder why UCLA would fire such a wonderful Coach and nobody else would hire Him till We did.

The Cult of Stans is alive and well.

[thf24]

don't twist my words. I said Stans has a better record at MSU than Howland. Comparing what you do at UCLA and What you can do at MSU is not a fair comparison. I just pointed out that Stans beat Howland at Howland's home court. Who has the better winning percentage at MSU? I certainly hope Ben takes us to 4 final fours. But I still can't figure why would UCLA fire Him--that is Idiocy.

Stansbury didn't beat Howland last season. Billy Kennedy did. I don't care about this argument and have nothing against Stansbury, but this particular contrived talking point is getting annoying.