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Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
It's official: Cohen is full blown #Cohening before the game has even started. Worst decision since Polk II. We better ****ing win the regional.

This is one decision that, too me, is no doubt the correct one. But go ahead. You like to bitch about Cohen no matter. Carry on.
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Hudson announced as starter
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Hell yeah lets go ahead and win this one.
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Originally Posted by
mparkerfd20
I couldn't agree more. Horrible decision that probably just cost us the regional.
it probably just cost us a regional? really?
I don't get the people going full nuclear over this decision. theyre throwing their ace in a game we must win - so we go with ours. I'm ok with it
Do I not look like a pothouse? Six foot down the bar. Go on, jog on, walk on, goodbye, bon voyage, **** off.
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Originally Posted by
mparkerfd20
I couldn't agree more. Horrible decision that probably just cost us the regional.
Well shit, why don't I just go home then. Regional is already over.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Well shit, why don't I just go home then. Regional is already over.
Might as well.
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Originally Posted by
JohnnyQuid
it probably just cost us a regional? really?
I don't get the people going full nuclear over this decision. theyre throwing their ace in a game we must win - so we go with ours. I'm ok with it
Their "ace" has 10 wins over sub-200 RPI teams. I fully expect us to hit him. But if we can't beat the mother****ing 4 seed with Houston or Pilkington, that doesn't say much for our potential at a deep run, now does it? You don't waste your ace against the 4 seed. Especially not when you're a national seed. That's just how it is. Hopefully it works out, but that doesn't make it less of a stupid decision. And if we don't win the regional - it's on Cohen for this bullshit.
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22

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For those that don't know me, I am being a bit facetious. I don't think it matters who we pitch our bats have to be lively. I still think we 'should' win the regional or we aren't the team I think we are.
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If we jump on their ace early and score 5+ in first 4 innings do you pull Hudson early to save for later just in case?
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Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
Their "ace" has 10 wins over sub-200 RPI teams. I fully expect us to hit him. But if we can't beat the mother****ing 4 seed with Houston or Pilkington, that doesn't say much for our potential at a deep run, now does it? You don't waste your ace against the 4 seed. Especially not when you're a national seed. That's just how it is. Hopefully it works out, but that doesn't make it less of a stupid decision. And if we don't win the regional - it's on Cohen for this bullshit.
I expect us to hit him, but keep in mind that the 2 and 3 seed will use their aces in their first game, so we're talking about having Sexton go against their second pitching option, which we should be in good shape for.
Also, Hudson is our pitcher that is most likely to go deep into the game. Do you want to use our ace in a game against CSF or La Tech's 2nd pitcher that is potentially going to get a lengthy rain delay 4 innings in?
And again, if SEMO is big on taking pitches, do you want to put Houston on the mound and run the risk of burning through some pitchers?
I'm not sure starting Hudson is the right decision, but it definitely doesn't seem stupid to me. If it wasn't for the forecast, I do think I'd lean against throwing him.
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Originally Posted by
mparkerfd20
If we jump on their ace early and score 5+ in first 4 innings do you pull Hudson early to save for later just in case?
I would. It'd be nice to have him available to close out the last couple of innings of the Championship game if it's tight.
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22

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Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
Their "ace" has 10 wins over sub-200 RPI teams. I fully expect us to hit him. But if we can't beat the mother****ing 4 seed with Houston or Pilkington, that doesn't say much for our potential at a deep run, now does it? You don't waste your ace against the 4 seed. Especially not when you're a national seed. That's just how it is. Hopefully it works out, but that doesn't make it less of a stupid decision. And if we don't win the regional - it's on Cohen for this bullshit.
and as it has been said, those numbers don't match up to his talent.
We will see.
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Worst case scenario, we have our #2 vs CSF's #2 tomorrow. This decision is not that big of a deal. The alternative worst case is that we lose while throwing Houston and half of our pen is blown, and we have to bank on winning through the loser's bracket with no bullpen.
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Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
Their "ace" has 10 wins over sub-200 RPI teams. I fully expect us to hit him. But if we can't beat the mother****ing 4 seed with Houston or Pilkington, that doesn't say much for our potential at a deep run, now does it? You don't waste your ace against the 4 seed. Especially not when you're a national seed. That's just how it is. Hopefully it works out, but that doesn't make it less of a stupid decision. And if we don't win the regional - it's on Cohen for this bullshit.
I agree we should be able to beat any 4 seed with our top 3-4 guys but shit happens and losing the opener would be far more damning. if we end up losing the regional there will be alot more reasons to it than "man if only hudson wouldn't have thrown friday."
I think we win it tho
Do I not look like a pothouse? Six foot down the bar. Go on, jog on, walk on, goodbye, bon voyage, **** off.
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Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
Their "ace" has 10 wins over sub-200 RPI teams. I fully expect us to hit him. But if we can't beat the mother****ing 4 seed with Houston or Pilkington, that doesn't say much for our potential at a deep run, now does it? You don't waste your ace against the 4 seed. Especially not when you're a national seed. That's just how it is. Hopefully it works out, but that doesn't make it less of a stupid decision. And if we don't win the regional - it's on Cohen for this bullshit.
Don't disagree...just asking, but how many other 1 seeds are throwing their ace today?
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Didn't someone say this semo pitcher is going to be a high 1st round pick? I don't care about the competition he's faced then. Folks who know more about him than anybody on this board think he's damned good. Cohen may have made the right call.
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Originally Posted by
mparkerfd20
If we jump on their ace early and score 5+ in first 4 innings do you pull Hudson early to save for later just in case?
The problem with that is you either burn somebody you may likely need in the next two games in order to have Hudson available to pitch in a relief situation that may or may not occur and that he's not used to performing in regardless, or you go far enough down in your bull pen that I'm not sure you can be confident they'll take care of business.
I think I'd lean towards letting him finish out the game, or enough of it that we can close out with somebody we wouldn't expect to be needed in the next two games, and then if we get in dire straights in the final game of the regionals, surely hudson would be available for an inning if we needed him. If you're talking about more than an inning so that you need to pull him early on Friday, how many innings woudl you be comfortable throwing him without it potentially having a carryover effect into the super regionals?
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I think Hudson is the correct move simply looking at the weather for the weekend. The first game is the only game that we can say right now that might not be affected by the weather. A couple of teams pitching staffs will face starting and stopping at some point. I wouldn't want to take a chance of Hudson starting, stopping, and possibly starting again and end up only using him 4 innings on the weekend.
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Man is it hot! Hudson probably would last longer than Houston in this heat. We shall see.
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