Spin Cycle Still Works

[ILOATHEBears]

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/i...il-allegations

Ed Asschoff put on his cape and came to the rescue with this delightful piece of drivel for the Rebel faithful.

"While there were some damning allegations in Ole Miss? response, most notably the academic fraud that involved former Houston Nutt staff members Chris Vaughn and David Saunders, there was no bombshell that could cripple Ole Miss? football program, and Freeze likely won?t lose his job over this."

There WERE major bombshells on this round and Freeze still might lose his job on the next round.

Saunders on ESPN this morning went to freezes rescue as well. He said Freezus was being wrongly criticized bla bla bla. He must have only read asschaps article because remove all the level 1 allegations just for a minute and why is the media not blasting a coach for LYING to croots to just get their signature blaming a former coach

[IMissJack]

I think most of these guys just don't want to admit to themselves that they are wrong.

[confucius say]

Most of their punishment came from lying and failing to cooperate.

No, I don't think any of these accusations will cripple the program. Tell me which ones you think will.

I think academic fraud and changing act scores may

[AlmostPositive]

When representatives of the university pretend the violations are minor and mostly before the current football staff, but instead there are 8 Level I violations leveled at Freeze and Co., that is a bombshell all by itself.

[Bully13]

When representatives of the university pretend the violations are minor and mostly before the current football staff, but instead there are 8 Level I violations leveled at Freeze and Co., that is a bombshell all by itself.

Smootness, please read this

[Coach34]

Most of their punishment came from lying and failing to cooperate.

Who? ULL was cited as being exemplary

[deadheaddawg]

USC got hammered just for the benefits to Reggie Bush and nothing else.

Yeah, that's not true at all. I don't know how many level one infractions USC had, but the probation involved at least football, basketball, and tennis.

[Really Clark?]

Yeah, that's not true at all. I don't know how many level one infractions USC had, but the probation involved at least football, basketball, and tennis.

I think it was 7 total infractions for USC. However, multiple of those infractions were very complicated and had numerous subsections detailing the violation. They also received LOIC because of almost no monitoring of access to players on campus and were repeat violators at the time the Bush violations occurred.

[mic]

I think it was 7 total infractions for USC. However, multiple of those infractions were very complicated and had numerous subsections detailing the violation. They also received LOIC because of almost no monitoring of access to players on campus and were repeat violators at the time the Bush violations occurred.

UMiss infractions for football are greater than USCw and Ohio St combined....

[Really Clark?]

UMiss infractions for football are greater than USCw and Ohio St combined....

Yep. I believe you are correct

[smootness]

Well, here it is, S---tness: "The NCAA says, AND WE AGREE, that serious violations occurred here." - Admission in OM Response by its Friggin PRESIDENT and Athletic Director

And another: 16 LEVEL I Violations, 9 of those in football, 8 of those under current coach Hugh Freeze.

How many Level I's were involved in ULaLa's 11 scholarship losses?? ONE

What about other major infractions case??

I mean, seriously; if you're going to go full-on pu--y up, just go ahead and out yourself as the pansy that you are.

I don't really think you are that way. But I wish you'd start acting like you had a pair.

Act like you expect for what's right to happen. And it's much more likely to happen.

Well, this is quite the post.

[Political Hack]

Academic fraud is a bombshell. We just happened to know about it well in advance.

[WesternSkyDawg]

Well, this is quite the post.

My late-night vitriol aside, you're still avoiding the obvious bombshell.

[WesternSkyDawg]

When representatives of the university pretend the violations are minor and mostly before the current football staff, but instead there are 8 Level I violations leveled at Freeze and Co., that is a bombshell all by itself.

Thank you for making the point better than I could.

It should be pretty clear.

[deadheaddawg]

UMiss infractions for football are greater than USCw and Ohio St combined....

I am not saying you are incorrect, but if you are sure of this can you spell it out and compare it. I know oke miss has the academic fraud under Nutt but didn't the USC football stuff involve things like buying houses?

Explain how you came to the conclusion that oke miss football infractions are worse than USC and OSU combined

[smootness]

My late-night vitriol aside, you're still avoiding the obvious bombshell.

And that argument is fine. My point is that he was saying there was no single bombshell allegation, and I mostly agree with that.

[Reason2succeed]

Explain how you came to the conclusion that oke miss football infractions are worse than USC and OSU combined

Reading them

[Really Clark?]

I am not saying you are incorrect, but if you are sure of this can you spell it out and compare it. I know oke miss has the academic fraud under Nutt but didn't the USC football stuff involve things like buying houses?

Explain how you came to the conclusion that oke miss football infractions are worse than USC and OSU combined

We were talking about the actual number of infractions. We didn't get into the severity overall. But on that note, the actual violations, not the cover up and lying, but the actual infractions that were done at OSU were not as severe or as many as UNM. (Ironically they had impermissable benefits surrounding cars as well) By a pretty large margin. The HC cover up and lying caused the bulk of the severity of the penalties in that case.

[Reason2succeed]

To use a baseball analogy, when it comes to cheating OM covered all the bases then knocked in the grand slam. We've seen UNC with academic fraud; we've seen ULL with fraudulent entrance exams; we've seen USC and OSU with impermissible benefits; but OM has them all under one roof.