Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
So your suggestion is to just do it by the book. Correct?

Ok.

In doing that -- over the course of a season does that team win at/above/or below their talent level?

By asking him to coach chalk -- in this season specifically -- on the subject you have already agreed on(that this team is winning above it's talent level overall) -- you are actually asking him to win less. You want to look at a single specific situation but that's not what a season is. A season is what the sum of the single situations add up to. It's prettymuch like a lib seeing a single situation and figuring out how to fix it -- while ignoring the net effect that act of "fixing" caused.

You can say the move was stupid. Maybe it was. Maybe it cost us a game. But we are still dealing with a constant talent level here. It's still a balance. You don't get to "correct the dumb coaching and therefore play that much more above your actual talent level". The scale doesn't tilt like that. The act of cutting out these "dumb" coaching moves that everyone is freaking out about also cuts out all of the unorthodox ones he makes that turn to gold. Literally the only difference between the two is the execution of the player in the situation they are exposed to. And his methods have resulted in a net positive on the season this year.

Look -- I know you know baseball. Ok. But we already fundamentally disagreed on the way the team can and should be built personality-wise -- especially a John Cohen coached team -- and I don't see any way we are going to agree on this part either.
Thru all the vitriole and essays you still aren't getting what I've been saying bc I guess you are incapable. I've said he gets credit for the good decisions and I'm not bashing him for for the ones that don't work. Not all of them do that's baseball. I'm screaming about the so obviously stupid ones that no little league coach would do that why do we have to do them. Just to be unorthodox? Well that's stupid. Hitting Gordon, taking out Sexton those are stupid so don't do it. Those are the going for it on 4th and 28 in 2nd quarter on your own 10 bc it might work 1/100 times. I'm not ripping him for calling or not calling a hit and run which you want to run your entire genius narrative from.

You won't get it so I'm done. You know way more about it than everybody else anyway.