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    I'll try this again... What happened to Calhoun?

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    No one knows anything about Calhoun yet.

    Let this sink in though. IF Calhoun is out, we will be down all 4 opening day DB starters and at least 1 second string guy...along with Redmond still on suspension...

    So, in essence, we "may" be down 6 of our best DBs against Kenny Edenfield and Troy... That's a scary proposition. Not that I think we lose, just that it's a recipe to give up a bunch of yards and look bad on defense...
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    it's either LSU or Bowling Green and the bye week is coming into play. That's all I know.

    I've seen press releases that say 6 games too though.

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    All I know is after talking with Townsend after the Auburn game he's high on Redmond and his ability.

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    Jesus 17ing shit we are DECIMATED at DB already! Wtf is going on

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    Nickoe is out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
    No one knows anything about Calhoun yet.

    Let this sink in though. IF Calhoun is out, we will be down all 4 opening day DB starters and at least 1 second string guy...along with Redmond still on suspension...

    So, in essence, we "may" be down 6 of our best DBs against Kenny Edenfield and Troy... That's a scary proposition. Not that I think we lose, just that it's a recipe to give up a bunch of yards and look bad on defense...
    So our 4 DB starters on opening day were Whitley, Hughes, Love and Calhoun. Hughes is out and now seems to be a question on Calhoun. Is something wrong with Love and Whitley? I know Love sat out against Alcorn but he played against Auburn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    So our 4 DB starters on opening day were Whitley, Hughes, Love and Calhoun. Hughes is out and now seems to be a question on Calhoun. Is something wrong with Love and Whitley? I know Love sat out against Alcorn but he played against Auburn.
    Love, Whitley, and Arrington are questionable for Troy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    All I know is after talking with Townsend after the Auburn game he's high on Redmond and his ability.
    Redmond would have likely started all season had he been available is what I've heard...

    Also looking for him to get some special teams work at returner -- where he's electric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
    Love, Whitley, and Arrington are questionable for Troy...
    Well dang, if we somehow lose this game because we can't stop the pass its going to REALLY get rough visiting the MSU message boards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandwolf View Post
    Are you sure about that? The way I understood it was that we offered the 5 games, and then he got the additional year because he initially lied to the NCAA investigators.
    This is what i was told as well. Not saying its fair, just what I was told from within the dept.

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    he was not given adequate council at the onset of the investigation and got grilled for HOURS by NCAA attorneys without any preparation from the school. "He lied" could easily be interpreted as "he wasn't prepared for what was coming."

    Anyone in the Ath Dept that's trying to blame him for this shit should catch the wrath of 60,000 maroon wearing maniacs. He's been through more at 18 than most people do in a lifetime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    This is what i was told as well. Not saying its fair, just what I was told from within the dept.
    I hate the frickin' NCAA. Every time we have a player come under review for eligibility they throw on a whole damn extra year for good measure without any good reason other than 'we didn't like what they told us'. I don't believe anybody else gets that garbage other than MSU players that I've heard of. Happened with Sidney and the Eastern European basketball player and now with Redmond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Hack View Post
    he was not given adequate council at the onset of the investigation and got grilled for HOURS by NCAA attorneys without any preparation from the school. "He lied" could easily be interpreted as "he wasn't prepared for what was coming."

    Anyone in the Ath Dept that's trying to blame him for this shit should catch the wrath of 60,000 maroon wearing maniacs. He's been through more at 18 than most people do in a lifetime.
    Well let's try not getting caught providing discounts, cash, and gift cards next time and we won't have to worry about the eligibility of a recruit or getting ourselves put on probation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckDOG View Post
    Well let's try not getting caught providing discounts, cash, and gift cards next time and we won't have to worry about the eligibility of a recruit or getting ourselves put on probation.
    Easier said than done nowadays. Sad, but true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRef View Post
    Easier said than done nowadays. Sad, but true.
    No, based on what I'm seeing with a lot of other schools including our friends to the North its not that hard. We seem to be one of the very few that can't do it without it all becoming public knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ckDOG View Post
    Well let's try not getting caught providing discounts, cash, and gift cards next time and we won't have to worry about the eligibility of a recruit or getting ourselves put on probation.
    Fair enough.

    Don't ever get caught bitching about our recruiting then -- because we won't be playing the same game as everyone else and will get NO ONE other than the lifelong MSU fan from within MS that can afford to leave thousands on the table in order to come play for us. Ole Miss will take 7+ of the top 10 or so in MS every year -- and we can play tiddlywinks with USM for the leftovers.

    Fact is, we didn't "get caught" with jack shit. We caught ourselves. All we had to do was go on the offense and in 10 minutes of scrutiny, we could have TOTALLY ripped De'Vinner to shreds as a valid witness...at which point, the NCAA HAS NOTHING ON US. Hell, it's literally only taken him steering a few recruits away from Tennessee -- for them to throw their weight around -- culminating in what likely ends up as jail time and his exposure as a fraud to the whole free world for his ass. THEY are doing this work for us -- after the fact -- simply because he steers kids away from there. And you wonder why we are bitching about our "aw shucks" bullshit?

    Do you see OK State laying down and taking it? NO -- they went have gone STRAIGHT to offense trying to disqualify the people talking shit about them...
    Last edited by engie; 09-18-2013 at 02:51 PM.

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    Do you see OK State laying down and taking it? NO -- they went have gone STRAIGHT to offense trying to disqualify the people talking shit about them...[/QUOTE]

    would that include their AD who started apologizing to the fans the day after it went public ?

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    Heck,
    They should give him his year back. That is crazy. It's not like he signed a bunch of autographs or whatever Miami and Oregon did. This guy wasn't even a player for MSU at the time. Its like following the rules of any club in america before you were even a member. Let some shit slide. UM players were video taped getting more money by an entire club worth of students and boosters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FISHDAWG View Post
    Do you see OK State laying down and taking it? NO -- they went have gone STRAIGHT to offense trying to disqualify the people talking shit about them...


    would that include their AD who started apologizing to the fans the day after it went public ?[/QUOTE]

    Their AD went stupid before it ever went public. And his ass is on fire because of it. It's been taken out of his hands now -- and he'll be lucky to survive as their AD. They've lawyered up -- and have attacked each and every named "source" in those articles. There's even talk of the writer losing his job over it or at the very least being suspended because of the amount of scrutiny and the disqualification that has already happened. ESPN has already made them look stupid even...

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