Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
Overuse of pitchers, JV is a prime example. heck 3 dam good pitchers ruined by Fredi. Smoot is right never saw this under Leo or Bobby.
My biggest criticism of Roger is that I think he is below average at identifying mechanical issues and correcting them in pitchers. He does a great job with sinker ball pitchers, but I don't think he handles finesse pitchers who need to vary their speed and deliveries very well.

Think about it this way. With Leo, Steve Avery had a shoulder issue that ended his career, and John Smotlz and Mike Hampton had ulnar collateral ligament tears. That's pretty much it as far as arm injuries.

With Roger, just off the top of my head, Brandon Beachy, Kris Medlin, Johnny Venters, EOF, Tim Hudson are pitchers that have had UCL replacement surgery, and Smoltz blew out his shoulder under Roger.