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Originally Posted by
chef dixon
He can shoot. Good place to start for a shooting guard. I get your point, but thats a strong criticism.
He's an undersized spot up shooter at this point in time. The rules of him making it haven't changed. He's got to do it as a point guard/combon guard -- and he is thusfar lacking more of those skill sets than he possesses.
Last edited by engie; 02-08-2016 at 04:43 PM.
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Originally Posted by
engie
If it was this cut and dry -- why show up in the first place instead of just going overseas and getting paid like he openly discussed? The "he gone no matter what" shoe does not fit -- I don't care what is being chattered among friends.
The dude isn't leaving to go undrafted. For all the crazy talk -- the actual decisions made along the way have been very deliberate. He has no guarantees of being drafted right now. And certainly no real guaranteed money. If -- at the end of the season -- he needs another year to continue to learn the point(the only place he has a real potential NBA future), he is going to make the wise decision. We will see how it shakes out.
Players leave to end up getting undrafted every year. I agree that he isn't ready to go, but it's safe to say that a very large percentage of players who come out early aren't ready to go either. You can't just automatically assume that he is going to do the wise thing just because he's a Bulldog. These kids these days rarely do the wise thing.
He's not ready, for sure. He should come back, for sure. It's common sense to us, but that doesn't matter. Howland has said from the beginning that he was a one-and-done player, and I think that's probably the expectation at this point.
He could put together three big games in the SEC tournament and shoot up everyone's draft boards. Those things are very fluid.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
If he is determined to **** up his NBA future so be it. Peters is a better PG already and he's still in high school. More minutes for Peters.
Please don't put that pressure on Lamar before he gets here. He's played exactly like Malik did in HS. He's going to have to adjust to not just being able to pull up 25 footers & learn to run an offense. He does have a better handle than Malik so that helps but he's not a big kid either 6' 165-170lbs so he's going to have growing pains too. I think Lamar is going to be a great player for us but I'm not sold he comes in & dominates Day 1 in the SEC.
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..and wont he have to play behind IJ for a year?

Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
Please don't put that pressure on Lamar before he gets here. He's played exactly like Malik did in HS. He's going to have to adjust to not just being able to pull up 25 footers & learn to run an offense. He does have a better handle than Malik so that helps but he's not a big kid either 6' 165-170lbs so he's going to have growing pains too. I think Lamar is going to be a great player for us but I'm not sold he comes in & dominates Day 1 in the SEC.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg-gone-dawgs
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Correct
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I just hoped he hasn't stopped going to class. He's gonna need to stay eligible if he wants his options to be open, regardless of his final decision.
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I sincerely hope after Horatio preached "lottery pick or stay in school" they don't change their mind. He is in no way a 1st round pick anymore. He has no choice but to come back or they are stupid.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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He gone. And that's ok. Howland wants to show that a one and done can be a one and done at MSU. It's all up to Malik at this point, but it's very very very likely he goes pro. Which I am totally fine with bc that was his plan all along. If he decides to come back (which I hear right now is not likely), then it is just icing on the cake. I just appreciate the guy choosing MSU and showing that it IS cool to come to State. He is THE reason we have the incoming class we'll have next year.
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But when he goes 2nd round it will used against us as "if he had gone to Kentucky or whomever he would be a 1st rounder"...that will be the spin
he is leaving a lot of money on the table if he leaves
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
But when he goes 2nd round it will used against us as "if he had gone to Kentucky or whomever he would be a 1st rounder"...that will be the spin
he is leaving a lot of money on the table if he leaves
Eh, I'm not that worried about the way other teams try to spin it no matter which way it goes. Good recruiters can overcome that pretty easily, and Howland's a great one.
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I hope he is successful whatever he does. I'm grateful he came to State for however long it ends up being. I'm not real big on all the negative things being said about him here.
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Originally Posted by
CadaverDawg
He gone. And that's ok. Howland wants to show that a one and done can be a one and done at MSU. It's all up to Malik at this point, but it's very very very likely he goes pro. Which I am totally fine with bc that was his plan all along. If he decides to come back (which I hear right now is not likely), then it is just icing on the cake. I just appreciate the guy choosing MSU and showing that it IS cool to come to State. He is THE reason we have the incoming class we'll have next year.
Irregardless of what he does with the draft after the season I too am thankful he came and played for us at a time when our program was trying to get things turned around. He definitely made a big impact to getting the class we have coming in next year.
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Originally Posted by
PMDawg
I hope he is successful whatever he does. I'm grateful he came to State for however long it ends up being. I'm not real big on all the negative things being said about him here.
I'm with you
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Irregardless of what he does with the draft after the season I too am thankful he came and played for us at a time when our program was trying to get things turned around. He definitely made a big impact to getting the class we have coming in next year.
Spot on
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Malik just seems like the type of guy that can make a huge jump in production in year 2. If he can get a little better at getting open looks he can be lethal. I agree I'll be happy regardless of what he does.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Irregardless of what he does with the draft after the season I too am thankful he came and played for us at a time when our program was trying to get things turned around. He definitely made a big impact to getting the class we have coming in next year.
I'm grateful Malik came here. I'd like his game and everyone else's better if we weren't 2-8 in the SEC. Win some games and I'll cheer the 17 up.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
But when he goes 2nd round it will used against us as "if he had gone to Kentucky or whomever he would be a 1st rounder"...that will be the spin
he is leaving a lot of money on the table if he leaves
The problem with coming back, NBA execs may figure out that his ceiling has been reached, if he leaves now some exec will think that he hasn't reached his full potential.
There are just as many risks in coming back as there are going pro. The longer you play in college, the more the pros can pick apart.
There were 13 freshman drafted in first round, 5 sophomores, only 1 sophomore in lottery last year.
Last edited by HancockCountyDog; 02-08-2016 at 08:52 PM.
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If the new NBA draft rules are in effect this year, this seems pretty simple. He will declare, go through the combine, and work out for some teams. If he gets good feedback, he's gone. If not, he can come back to school or take his chances.
Last edited by Shooter McGavin; 02-09-2016 at 09:52 AM.
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Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
The problem with coming back, NBA execs may figure out that his ceiling has been reached
If his ceiling has in fact been reached -- as a point/combo guard -- than yeah, he should go. I just don't believe that he's anywhere near it at this point in time.
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Originally Posted by
engie
Is it all about the money or is it not?
Who says he has to go overseas for that?
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