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12-22-2015, 06:18 PM
#101

Originally Posted by
dawg27
bb
I am with u i hope so but what is going to be the punishment if they get caught? Ncaa way to liberal if they it will be what one bowel ban. I think they have the mindset the benefit of getting these players far out ways the punishment.
My guess is that they lose a few schollies, between 2-4 and they will just keep on doing what they are doing.
We better start doing the same.
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12-22-2015, 06:36 PM
#102
Boomhauer

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
My guess is that they lose a few schollies, between 2-4 and they will just keep on doing what they are doing.
We better start doing the same.
that what i am saying untill the ncaa can make the punishment hurt they going to continue to do it, i mean loose a few schollies two year bowel ban. Then they will appeal the two year it will be dropped to one. the benefit far out ways the punishment.
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12-22-2015, 08:05 PM
#103

Originally Posted by
dawg27
that what i am saying untill the ncaa can make the punishment hurt they going to continue to do it, i mean loose a few schollies two year bowel ban. Then they will appeal the two year it will be dropped to one. the benefit far out ways the punishment.
I don't know, a bowel ban sounds like a punishment that could indeed REALLY hurt. Ouch.
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12-22-2015, 10:12 PM
#104
Senior Member
Regarding Cam Newton...

Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Cam Newton was a guy that had not done much while at Florida (granted he was just a FR though) with a run in with campus police for theft coming out of a JUCO. NOBODY thought Cam Newton was what he turned out to be at Auburn. Very good prospect but far from a can't miss at the time.
That is what the casual fan would see, but the actual coaches that evaluate players knew he was a can't miss prospect.
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12-22-2015, 10:14 PM
#105
Can Newton was the undisputed #1 Juco QB in the nation. Can't be much higher than that.
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12-22-2015, 11:02 PM
#106
there are a lot of posters in this thread that don't understand "recruiting" (circa 20th-21st century)...
imo
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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12-23-2015, 01:13 AM
#107
We need to get fully IN THE GAME.
Time to get busy living or get busy dying.
I do wonder what the OMU cheating so does to the market. They are obviously paying more than Bama so I think Bama has to step up their game, driving up the price.
Auburn can't be far behind. And damn if A&M wakes up to it....
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12-23-2015, 01:55 AM
#108

Originally Posted by
cheewgumm
We need to get fully IN THE GAME.
Time to get busy living or get busy dying.
I do wonder what the OMU cheating so does to the market. They are obviously paying more than Bama so I think Bama has to step up their game, driving up the price.
Auburn can't be far behind. And damn if A&M wakes up to it....
Every school is already doing it including us.
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12-23-2015, 02:27 AM
#109

Originally Posted by
TUSK
there are a lot of posters in this thread that don't understand "recruiting" (circa 20th-21st century)...
imo
Yep. Anyone scoffing at $200K as a reasonable amount when your guys got caught giving a kid $150K TWENTY YEARS AGO can't accept or understand reality. And it's why our Virginia Slims can't get our crootin fixed. It's time to either start playing the game or stop whining about getting our asses kicked frequently by teams who ARE playing the game.
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22

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12-23-2015, 10:11 AM
#110

Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
Yep. Anyone scoffing at $200K as a reasonable amount when your guys got caught giving a kid $150K TWENTY YEARS AGO can't accept or understand reality. And it's why our Virginia Slims can't get our crootin fixed. It's time to either start playing the game or stop whining about getting our asses kicked frequently by teams who ARE playing the game.
Not to be picky, but fat Albert didn't get a dime from us.
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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12-23-2015, 04:48 PM
#111

Originally Posted by
TUSK
Not to be picky, but fat Albert didn't get a dime from us.
Didn't his HS head coach or handler get paid, cut out the assistant HS coach who thought he was owed a cut of it, then asst turned everybody in 'cause he got stiffed?
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12-23-2015, 05:08 PM
#112
Banned
Do you honestly not think everyone is paying?

Originally Posted by
cheewgumm
We need to get fully IN THE GAME.
Time to get busy living or get busy dying.
I do wonder what the OMU cheating so does to the market. They are obviously paying more than Bama so I think Bama has to step up their game, driving up the price.
Auburn can't be far behind. And damn if A&M wakes up to it....
If everyone wasn't paying then some schools would never get a single descent player. Do you really think kids are turning down thousands of dollars to go play somewhere for free? If so, i have some land i need to sell you. This is nothing than a we are poor ol' mississippi state and the world is against us bullshit. We need to demand better from our coaches and stop whining about bracky and other stupid shit.
Our lack of recruiting is only hindered by our lack of recruiting prowess from our coaching staff. Hire Ed O right now and our crootin goes up 20 spots in the next month.
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12-23-2015, 05:30 PM
#113

Originally Posted by
OdaMaeBrown
If everyone wasn't paying then some schools would never get a single descent player. Do you really think kids are turning down thousands of dollars to go play somewhere for free? If so, i have some land i need to sell you. This is nothing than a we are poor ol' mississippi state and the world is against us bullshit. We need to demand better from our coaches and stop whining about bracky and other stupid shit.
Our lack of recruiting is only hindered by our lack of recruiting prowess from our coaching staff. Hire Ed O right now and our crootin goes up 20 spots in the next month.
I'm not sure if you are responding to another post, or I am just not clear. I agree fully. I don't think there is any difference in Miss State and Ole Miss U from an unbiased typical recruit, all things being equal. so, if we PAY like they do, our recruiting will be similar.
That's my point.
I'm not sure what I said that contradicts that. Maybe I should have stressed "FULLY". I think it's obvious we don't cheat enough, hence we are not getting good enough players.
CHEAT BETTER...the end.
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12-23-2015, 05:35 PM
#114
Banned
Yes i was responding to you.
So you just think we don't cheat enough and it isn't that maybe our coaches just aren't good recruiters? If so, what evidence do you have of that? Other than in your own mind?
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12-23-2015, 05:45 PM
#115

Originally Posted by
Schultzy
Didn't his HS head coach or handler get paid, cut out the assistant HS coach who thought he was owed a cut of it, then asst turned everybody in 'cause he got stiffed?
correct... good memory!
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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12-23-2015, 08:20 PM
#116
Banned

Originally Posted by
Political Hack
You'd better believe it. Things are reaching heights I'd never have dreamed of. Cam Newton has reestablished the market price.
Cam deserved it. Not sure very many more do.
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12-23-2015, 08:32 PM
#117
Its real simple:
Cam Newton didnt play at Miss State because Mullen was too chickenshit to give the ok to pay the money. Mullen wanted to "play by the rules" and get Auburn on probation.
Auburn said **** the NCAA and found a way to get it done
Hugh Freezus says **** the NCAA and orchestrates the ways to get it done
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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12-23-2015, 08:32 PM
#118
Yes the information gets out but the NCAA can't find anything?
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12-23-2015, 09:11 PM
#119
Banned

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Its real simple:
Cam Newton didnt play at Miss State because Mullen was too chickenshit to give the ok to pay the money. Mullen wanted to "play by the rules" and get Auburn on probation.
Auburn said **** the NCAA and found a way to get it done
Hugh Freezus says **** the NCAA and orchestrates the ways to get it done
Reasons to hire former HEAD coaches with this type of experience.
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12-23-2015, 09:48 PM
#120

Originally Posted by
cheewgumm
I'm not sure if you are responding to another post, or I am just not clear. I agree fully. I don't think there is any difference in Miss State and Ole Miss U from an unbiased typical recruit, all things being equal. so, if we PAY like they do, our recruiting will be similar.
That's my point.
I'm not sure what I said that contradicts that. Maybe I should have stressed "FULLY". I think it's obvious we don't cheat enough, hence we are not getting good enough players.
CHEAT BETTER...the end.
Wait, wait, they have the Grove. Pretty sure that's what's been reeling in these out of state elite guys.***
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