I actually attended both universities and there is a huge distinctive difference that most UM walkon fans don't get. At MSU, nobody cared that I drove a piece of crap. They liked me for who I was. When I attended UM, people would ask me what frat I was in before asking me my name. I didn't really develop my disdain for TSUN until I went to school there. My kids are presently attending MSU! Oh, I'm on the bourbon as well.