Sunday Morning QB- C34 is pissed off Edition

[SDDawg]

At the end of the day, at the very least if I was Scott I would tell Dan to dump or demote Hevesey.

I could get behind this...

[Todd4State]

When he was entering the game vs Alabama he was 20-5 in his last 25 games. He did this at MSU. It is really hard to win at football at MSU. Maybe the team will fall apart this season but he could still get to 10 wins with a bowl.

Well, if he wants to do that he better start making some big time adjustments to our personnel- starting with sitting Warren and Zach Jackson.

[Beaver]

We have a decent overall coach, but one whos strength is development and systrm, amd whose weakness is field coaching and adjustments of any kind, be it within a game or within a season. Overall, he's not a good coach.

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[Eric Nies Grind Time]

As I said, Fuente is my first choice. But if we end up with Whittingham, that's hardly a Rick Ray hire. As some appear to be fearful of.

At the end of the day, at the very least if I was Scott I would tell Dan to dump or demote Hevesey, Sallach, and maybe Knox with Hevesey being the only one that is totally non-negotiable. And I would tell him if he doesn't want to do that, then good luck at Miami.

At the end of the day, Dan could make his ridiculous play calls and have it work much better with a functional o-line.

I am in agreement that staff changes have to be made. I am hoping that a performance that bad was the final straw for Hevesy. That was like a defensive coordinator giving up 80 points.

[Todd4State]

Because it was a blatant lie. This would be true - you want to compete head to head with Freeze on that front?! Not smart.

No offense guys, but I don't think you're seeing this clearly. Understandable after a tough weekend, but sleep it off and let's finish the season and see where it goes. Dan was left for dead in 2013 and found a way to finish, let's see what he can do here.

The reality is Dan probably almost HAS to win the next two and maybe even the bowl as well- which I will hold out judgment on until we find out who the actual opponent is- to win back a LOT of the fans.

Whether he realizes it or not a lot of fans are getting tired of the obvious flaws without any adjustments being made. A lot of people are tired of seeing the same players fail time and time again while younger players are outperforming the older ones- only to get pulled from the game after one mistake and are being replaced by the inferior ones making continual mistakes.

And even if he does win out, I would still hope that Hevesey would be asked to leave or demoted.

[Todd4State]

I am in agreement that staff changes have to be made. I am hoping that a performance that bad was the final straw for Hevesy. That was like a defensive coordinator giving up 80 points.

I had a similar thought in my head. I guess I equate a sack being like a TD allowed- so therefore 9 sacks would be like a defense allowing 63 points. In my mind at least. However you want to quantify it, it's not good.

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

18 5 stars vs 1 5 star. Bitching about play calling is low hanging fruit and nowhere near the root of the problem. Bitching about defensive alignments is low hanging fruit and nowhere near the root of the problem. Bitching about the talent of our running backs and Hev's offensive line recruiting is hitting the nail on the head.

We can solve this, but pressure must be applied at the correct spots. Bitching out of frustration about play calling and alignments is a big waste of hot air until the root of the problems are solved.

Agree 1000% here

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

Mullen has to fire Hevesy. He is a total zero.

Agree 1000% with this also

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

Agree about the bitching about the play calling. That's a total "fan move". Disagree about the alignment issues. Alignment issues gave Bama 2 TD's. The margin for error is too thin for that to happen and that's something the coaches can control. We had 1 guy who was hugely responsible for 3 big plays.

As for O-line issues, we sign 25 guys every year. No excuse not to have 5 good linemen. We really need to sign Lashley and Raekwon as future Left and Right Tackles.

Where do we stand with Lashley and Raekwon?

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

Yeah the scientologist thing has really kept those recruits from coming to state. I'm sure LDS would have the same effect.

Yes, apparently it has from an O lineman recruiting standpoint.

[cheewgumm]

Now that we have to schedule 1 decent OOC team, we will lose 1more game more often . So this will take care of itself...in time.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I haven't read all through the thread, but what 's the old saying..you pay for what you get. I know Mullen is making over 4 million, but it's time to step up the pay for our assistant positions. Hell, Kirby Smart makes more than half of our assistants combined.

[Bubb Rubb]

You can call it a fan move or whatever you want- running straight Bama when we need a TD is ****ing stupid and shows yet again- a lack of imagination

The problem with that set of play calls is this:

On first and second down, we tried to finesse it in there. At that point, Mullen sent a message to Alabama and his own guys that said, we don't think we can run it in from here, so we're going to try something else. When it didn't work, he went to play calls (power up the gut) that his team had no confidence in and Alabama's defense didn't respect.

I intentionally wanted to stay off the message boards this weekend, because I was so fired up over the game, and I wanted to chill out. But the more I think about it, the more disappointed I am in Mullen. He was poor across the board saturday, from game planning, to play calling, to clock management, to personnel, to execution.

When you come out in the first quarter, and drop your QB into the pocket to wait for intermediate and long pass routes to come open, you're going to get sacked, and you're not going to move the ball. That's what happened to us. I don't know what he did all week, but if he would've watched five minutes of the Miss-Bama game, he would've seen that the way to move the ball against Bama (and open up running lanes) is to spread the field and hit short/quick routes. Defensively, I don't know how you let Henry run it right up the gut for a long TD, or let a simple 20 yard hitch turn into a long TD. You can't make those mistakes in the 10th game of the effing season. On the punt, I told my buddy it was going to the house when it was in the air. Shitty punt, no hang time, easy to return. You can't do that if you're a D-1 punter in the SEC. I don't blame him - I blame his inconsistency on a lack of coaching.

And for those who cried for weeks about not letting Graves try the FG against LSU, you saw why on Saturday. He's accurate, but he can't kick anything beyond 46 yards. That's also embarrassing.

OK, I'm done.

[basedog]

I'm trying to decide if some are sounding like a Ole Miss board or maybe this board goes the Usm route. Fire Jeff Bower because "we can do better" or "he is to vanilla". Winning ain't always easy, if it was we would have won a long time ago.

25-6 tells me he is doing something right in by far the most competitive football conference in America. The Sec has been noted as the best football conference in the country ONLY because of the West.

Come on y'all, glad known of you folks run the athletic department.

[lastmajordog]

" Tebow had the Pounceys blocking for him- Dakota doesn't "
And UNM stuffed him and won the game. Two things to count on when Dan is close to the goal or need a big 4th down.....Jump pass and QB draw/dive. JMHO

[preachermatt83]

I do not want Mullen gone... Not yet anyway. Lose the Egg and I will prob feel differently. If he is gone at the end of the season(he won't be) I'd prefer him to leave to take another job. Having said that if he leaves I can give you a top 5 list that WOULD take it without question.

1- Kyle Wittingham(. C34 is right, he WANTS an SEC job and he despises the Utah administration.)
2- Mike Leach
3- Todd Monken
4- Butch Davis
5- rich Rod (he's wanting out of AZ)

[CadaverDawg]

I do not want Mullen gone... Not yet anyway. Lose the Egg and I will prob feel differently. If he is gone at the end of the season(he won't be) I'd prefer him to leave to take another job. Having said that if he leaves I can give you a top 5 list that WOULD take it without question.

1- Kyle Wittingham(. C34 is right, he WANTS an SEC job and he despises the Utah administration.)
2- Mike Leach
3- Todd Monken
4- Butch Davis
5- rich Rod (he's wanting out of AZ)

That list makes me hope even more that Mullen stays and just works on his flaws.

[basedog]

That list makes me hope even more that Mullen stays and just works on his flaws.

Well said Clint!!

[HoopsDawg]

I do not want Mullen gone... Not yet anyway. Lose the Egg and I will prob feel differently. If he is gone at the end of the season(he won't be) I'd prefer him to leave to take another job. Having said that if he leaves I can give you a top 5 list that WOULD take it without question.

1- Kyle Wittingham(. C34 is right, he WANTS an SEC job and he despises the Utah administration.)
2- Mike Leach
3- Todd Monken
4- Butch Davis
5- rich Rod (he's wanting out of AZ)

Other than Wittingham, that's the most depressing list I have ever seen. That's horrible dude.

[War Machine Dawg]

Other than Wittingham, that's the most depressing list I have ever seen. That's horrible dude.

No kidding. Not having Justin Fuente even in your top 5 is beyond embarrassing. Whittingham is solid. I'd take a look at Fedora at UNC. He seems to have gotten them going this year.