WOW, Mizzou's football team quits

[smootness]

It's reality. Those in leadership must have the confidence and support of those they lead in order to do so effectively. Those who want to produce change from the bottom up must have widespread support in order to accomplish it.

Do you deny that reality?

[AlmostPositive]

Shaming bullshit and sanctimonious??? I have no desire to nor do I believe that "shaming" will counter such deep-seated beliefs. Sanctimonious...I try to take the moral high ground. When given the opportunity, I Encourage others to do likewise. I understand that you are ashamed and you are comfortable in your morals.

You make it very easy for me not to give your outrage much weight.

[AlmostPositive]

People were very willing to lie about about what happened in Ferguson. The media was eager to propagate those lies. This will be no different.

[Blackout]

We need to false flag organize the northern miss bears into a similar circumstance. Their high draft picks might be looking for a way out of injury risk these last few games.

Covert ops in Oxford make this happen. A Bear football boycott would be absolutely outstanding.

[Coach007]

Ok, so show me where you found this information.

Ok.. time line is this: and can be found in the columbian paper

Sept. 12: Missouri Students Association president Payton Head posts about a racial slur directed at him. Was never turned in.

Oct. 5: Legion of Black Collegians members are the targets of racial slurs by a man on campus. The group was rehearsing for a performance at Traditions Plaza when a ?young man? talking on his cellphone walked up to the group. After being politely and repeatedly asked to leave, the man walked away but referenced LBC members using racial slurs. A heated encounter.

That same day, MU Chancellor R. Bowen Loftin responded with a post of his own, acknowledging and condemning racism at MU.

As you can see.. A response. That response was followed by Oct. 8: Loftin announces mandatory online diversity training for faculty, staff and students.

That wasn't enough

In comes a group called concerned student 1950...

[Irondawg]

These issues that you speak of are isolated incidents from ignorant students. What is the president supposed to do? Throw on his cape and lock them up? Please tell me specifically what the president has done that warrants his removal because not being sensitive enough to the needs of this group is not an acceptable answer.

Here is the list of demands:

We demand that University of Missouri System President, Tim Wolfe, writes a hand-written apology to Concerned Student 1-9-5-0 demonstrators and holds a press conference in the Mizzou Student Center reading the letter. In the letter and at the press conference, Tim Wolfe must acknowledge his white privilege, recognize that systems of oppression exits, and provide a verbal commitment to fulfilling Concerned Student 1-9-5-0 demands. We want Tim Wolfe to admits his gross negligence, allowing his driver to hit one of the demonstrators, consenting to the physical violence of bystanders, and lastly refusing to intervene when Columbia Police Department used excessive force with demonstrators.

2. We demand the immediate removal of Tim Wolfe as UM system president. After his removal, a new amendment to thd UM system policies must be established to have all future UM system president and Chancellor positions be selected by a collective of students, staff, and faculty of diverse backgrounds.

3. We demand that the University of Missouri meets the Legion of Black Collegians? demands that were presented in the 1969 for the betterment of the black community.

4. We demand that the University of Missouri creates and enforces comprehensive racial awareness and inclusion curriculum throughout all campus departments and units, mandatory for all students, faculty, staff and administration. This curriculum must be vetted, maintained, and overseen by a board comprised of students, staff and faculty of color.

5. We demand that by the academic year 2017-18, the University of Missouri increases the percentage of black faculty and staff members campus-wide by 10 percent.

6. We demand that the University of Missouri composes a strategic 10-year plan on May, 1 2016 that will increase retention rates for marginalized students, sustain diversity curriculum and training, and promote a more safe and inclusive campus.

7. We demand that the University of Missouri increases funding and resources for the University of Missouri Counseling Center for the purpose of hiring additional mental health professionals, particularly those of color, boosting mental health outreach and programming across campus, increasing campus-wide awareness and visibility of the counseling center, and reducing lengthy wait times for prospective clients.

8. We demand that the University of Missouri increases funding, resources and personnel for the social justice centers on campus for the purpose of hiring additional professionals, particularly those of color, boosting outreach and programming across campus and increasing campus-wide awareness and visibility.


Given this list i think my analogy is not that far off.

Because this whole thing could get full of misinformatio - exactly who's list of demands is this? The group the football players are behind or some other random faction joining in?

[smootness]

People were very willing to lie about about what happened in Ferguson. The media was eager to propagate those lies. This will be no different.

Yet where is BLM? They basically haven't been able to actually get anything done because not enough people are behind them.

Blaming the media is too easy. There aren't that many people for whom the media actually influences their opinions/beliefs.

[Bully13]

Apparently there is another big controversy at Mizzou because there is an on-campus abortion clinic. The president will not consider closing it down or moving it to another location, so there is another big group (maybe a little overlap, but probably not much) calling for his resignation.

I wonder how different the reactions here would be if Mizzou players were going on strike because of abortion rather than racial inequality?

an "on campus" abortion clinic. well my my haven't times changed. at aged 52, I have such a hard time keeping up with modern things. that's sounds so God Awful. but I guess it's part of modern stuff and all.

just go 17 your brains out once you get to school, then have the result siphoned out of your vagiiiiiinnnna as a piece of tissue and WTF is it anybody's bidness?

sorry for missing the boat youngsters... you young folks are so 17ing smart, I have a hard time keeping up with you

[Coach007]

So as you can see, it was addressed. MANDATORY online training by EVERYBODY! But that's not really the goal.

[Taog Redloh]

Only you and a few others have made assumptions about anyone in this situation. Those assumptions are baseless at this point.

Come on, man.

I get it. I know you are trying to be reasonable. But you do realize, that the students are the very definition of unreasonable? Even if they are correct THIS time (which is highly unlikely), which would make you correct, do you really think they'll do the right thing NEXT time? Hell no. Blind squirrel, nut, all that. They are in this for what they can get out of it, because they haven't been successful at earning anything (or haven't tried).

Missouri is pretty liberal. There ain't NOBODY holding anyone back. 'Institutional' racism, 'systemic' oppression.....all buzzwords for 'give me an advantage'. Their enemy isn't there, and they know it.

[Coach007]

Because this whole thing could get full of misinformatio - exactly who's list of demands is this? The group the football players are behind or some other random faction joining in?

No.. it's a group called concerned student 1950

[AlmostPositive]

We need to false flag organize the northern miss bears into a similar circumstance. Their high draft picks might be looking for a way out of injury risk these last few games.

Covert ops in Oxford make this happen. A Bear football boycott would be absolutely outstanding.

Blaming the media is too easy. There aren't that many people for whom the media actually influences their opinions/beliefs.

I watched CNN and and other networks give full credence to known liars. As a consequence, millions of people believed the Hands Up, Don't Shoot lie. Their outrage was based on a deliberate fiction. You seem willing to shade the truth on this latest matter. I don't understand this tendency from the left.

[Blackout]

While we're making demands....

Faurot Field must

1. Install trans bathrooms.
2. Designate 1 section as a safe space
3. Designate 1 section as a free speech zone
4. Remake their grass endzone into a free range chicken coop

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

This is the group that the football players are behind. They call themselves concerned students 1950. Please search #concernedstudents1950 on twitter and you will see a lot of information there.

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/miz...etes-students/

[PendingTransaction]

You make it very easy for me not to give your outrage much weight.

Brother, I am not outraged. I think I understand many of the dynamics at work here. For me this isn't about whether the President of some university that I couldn't care less about. Neither is about a football team(who I also have limited feelings for) taking a stance on an issue that I can't speak on the merit thereof. But those dynamics have caused many of MSU supporters to spout some very serious vitriol. As I stated early, I hope that our players and potentials are not reading these comments. Especially some that I've read in other places.

[smootness]

Ok.. time line is this: and can be found in the columbian paper

Sept. 12: Missouri Students Association president Payton Head posts about a racial slur directed at him. Was never turned in.

Oct. 5: Legion of Black Collegians members are the targets of racial slurs by a man on campus. The group was rehearsing for a performance at Traditions Plaza when a ?young man? talking on his cellphone walked up to the group. After being politely and repeatedly asked to leave, the man walked away but referenced LBC members using racial slurs. A heated encounter.

That same day, MU Chancellor R. Bowen Loftin responded with a post of his own, acknowledging and condemning racism at MU.

As you can see.. A response. That response was followed by Oct. 8: Loftin announces mandatory online diversity training for faculty, staff and students.

That wasn't enough

In comes a group called concerned student 1950...

Thank you. Yes, this is evidence of an attempt by the Missouri administration. So we at least do have that. And after looking a little more, it appears Wolfe also met with the group as well, though it was a couple weeks after the Homecoming parade incident.

The bottom line here is, this issue is still receiving support from large sections of the Missouri students. Are they all ignorant and looking out for themselves? I find that hard to believe. Is the Missouri administration/president solely to blame? Probably not. But it seems obvious that more needs to be done, by both sides, if they both actually do want change, and they both claim they do.

Part of my issue with groups like this is that they do make such unrealistic and extreme demands right off the bat. But that just means they're less likely to have those demands met, it doesn't mean the university is forced to meet them.

Being a university president, especially at a time like this, is not easy. Wolfe signed up for it, and now it's on him to figure out a way to come to some kind of resolution. That may not be possible, but both sides need to come to the table with the intent to be realistic and actually resolve the issue. At the very least, Wolfe needs to make it clear what he has done in an attempt to resolve it. I believe that if he is sincere and honest, he will get majority support.

[Taog Redloh]

I watched CNN and and other networks give full credence to known liars. As a consequence, millions of people believed the Hands Up, Don't Shoot lie. Their outrage was based on a deliberate fiction. You seem willing to shade the truth on this latest matter. I don't understand this tendency from the left.

Me either. It's not going to be good for them in the long run. Makes ZERO sense, other than they simply want to watch the world devolve into chaos, due to their own unhappiness.

[smootness]

Come on, man.

I get it. I know you are trying to be reasonable. But you do realize, that the students are the very definition of unreasonable? Even if they are correct THIS time (which is highly unlikely), which would make you correct, do you really think they'll do the right thing NEXT time? Hell no. Blind squirrel, nut, all that. They are in this for what they can get out of it, because they haven't been successful at earning anything (or haven't tried).

Missouri is pretty liberal. There ain't NOBODY holding anyone back. 'Institutional' racism, 'systemic' oppression.....all buzzwords for 'give me an advantage'. Their enemy isn't there, and they know it.

I'm honestly not that concerned over whether they're right or not, in the discussion we're having right now. I am glad they have the right and ability to voice their concerns and opinions. Sure, they may be stupid opinions and unreasonable concerns/demands, etc. but generally speaking, groups with stupid opinions don't gain much support and don't produce much change.

The system generally works pretty well. I'm not sure what you're arguing. Are you arguing that since they're unlikely to be correct, they shouldn't be able to make demands like this? Again, any group can make any 'demands' they want. I could get all my coworkers to make 'demands' of my boss, but the only way it's going to actually lead to anything is if those demands are legitimate, they are expressed in a valid way, and they have widespread support.

I'm not making a judgement on the validity of their claims. That's for Missouri's administration to decide, I don't have to make that decision. But I will always defend their right to make the claims.

[AlmostPositive]

I clicked on your link and read some the comments from Missouri fans and alumni who witnessed the "protests."

Sounds like they're about a week and a half away from destroying their athletic programs for a decade or more.

[Quaoarsking]

The fact that every single Missouri player (both black and white, liberal and conservative, rich and poor, etc.), every single Missouri coach (both black and white, liberal and conservative, etc.), the AD, a big chunk of the student body from all backgrounds, much of the faculty and university administration, the governor of Missouri, and prominent Missouri politicians in BOTH parties are united on this should be a clue that that isn't just a few morons having a bitchfit over nothing, shouldn't it?