Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
Yea. Stratton, Holder and 1 month of Girodo. Lindgren & Graveman could be in that group, but Lindgren was a head case with no control for a good portion of his career. Evan Mitchell, Woodruff, Routt, were wasted power arms that somehow got over their mental issues when they left MSU and are in the minors.

I'm sure there's a list of both good and bad examples. Not sure how much of that is on Butch good or bad...but I definitely dont see him as being irreplaceable. I'd prefer him stay, but I won't lose sleep if he goes. I think we can get another Top 10 pitching coach if he leaves...and I would say Butch is in the Top 10. Not number 1 or anything, but very good. The new seams + bad results last year has me wondering how he will adjust. But he's been around a while so I'm sure he will. I still see him as being a pitching coach, not a head coach. We'll see.

If he can have the same success with the Auburn staff, while not playing small ball and limiting his offense since Cohen won't be with him...he might surpass us one day, who knows. May even do it with the guys we would normally get from Alabama. I wouldn't mind him leaving nearly as much if he wasn't going to be so close. Recruiting and stuff.
I agree with some of what you said, but Woodruff, Routt, and Mitchell aren't exactly pitching phenomenally well. It took Routt 4 years to get out of rookie ball, and he was mediocre in A ball at 22 and in A+ at 23. Woodruff's numbers were decent last year, but he struck out only 71 in over 109 IP while giving up more than 1 hit/inning. He's still not pitching up to his real talent level. Evan Mitchell put up rough numbers (not a terrible ERA, but all his peripherals look really bad) in A+ at 23 after struggling in A ball at 22. None of those guys are success stories, and still none of them are pitching to their talent level.