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    Torrey Dale...

    Is he really our 4th DT? What the heck was going on with that last weekend? Was Cory Thomas suspended? Can't believe you wouldn't want to get him a few reps before LSU.

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    He's not.
    I haven't heard what was going on.
    No idea what's going on with Cory.

    The biggest takeaway I had from game 1 was my fear of Mullen being Mullen on the stuff like this, shump+holloway over lee and Williams, no peters and mclaurin at s, etc...

    I felt like to some extent the "answers" fell in his lap last year on these very issues. But am scared of a role reversal this year...

    Also, get Jiles in that #3 corner spot. I'd been high on Cleveland, but it's obvious at this point that he doesn't have confidence for whatever reason. He played timid not to give up the big play against USM and most of those completions were directly on him for playing safe imo...

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    Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
    He's not.
    I haven't heard what was going on.
    No idea what's going on with Cory.

    The biggest takeaway I had from game 1 was my fear of Mullen being Mullen on the stuff like this, shump+holloway over lee and Williams, no peters and mclaurin at s, etc...

    I felt like to some extent the "answers" fell in his lap last year on these very issues. But am scared of a role reversal this year...

    Also, get Jiles in that #3 corner spot. I'd been high on Cleveland, but it's obvious at this point that he doesn't have confidence for whatever reason. He played timid not to give up the big play against USM and most of those completions were directly on him for playing safe imo...

    Amen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
    He's not.
    I haven't heard what was going on.
    No idea what's going on with Cory.

    The biggest takeaway I had from game 1 was my fear of Mullen being Mullen on the stuff like this, shump+holloway over lee and Williams, no peters and mclaurin at s, etc...

    I felt like to some extent the "answers" fell in his lap last year on these very issues. But am scared of a role reversal this year...

    Also, get Jiles in that #3 corner spot. I'd been high on Cleveland, but it's obvious at this point that he doesn't have confidence for whatever reason. He played timid not to give up the big play against USM and most of those completions were directly on him for playing safe imo...
    The coaches named Cleveland defensive player of the game. If you go back and watch the film, you will see that Cleveland played very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    The coaches named Cleveland defensive player of the game. If you go back and watch the film, you will see that Cleveland played very well.
    Oh good God. I've heard it all now. I hope him being named defensive player of the game was like a girl telling you it's not you it's me but we should see other people

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    The coaches named Cleveland defensive player of the game. If you go back and watch the film, you will see that Cleveland played very well.
    I've rewatched it. If they liked his play, it explains our whole problem on defense. He showed a lot of promise early, but hasn't been the same since the missed tackle for td at UK last year. I'd taken up for him prior to that and even did after till this game. But he was playing soft and getting us shredded on his side. Go back and watch how much they threw at him compared to how much they threw at Redmond. It's self explanatory really. He certainly didn't blow any coverages or get beat deep, but he played far too safe(timid) giving up far too easy of receptions in my opinion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg View Post
    Oh good God. I've heard it all now. I hope him being named defensive player of the game was like a girl telling you it's not you it's me but we should see other people
    Nice job avoiding the whole re-watch the game thing. I don't know if he played well or not. But don't trash half a statement and disregard the other half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayburn8 View Post
    Nice job avoiding the whole re-watch the game thing. I don't know if he played well or not. But don't trash half a statement and disregard the other half.
    I've rewatched it twice. Nice try though

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    People are going to figure out eventually that Mullen is going to play older guys no matter what. You are going to have to be an early round draft pick to get on the field early for us ala Jones, Bear, McKinney, etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
    I've rewatched it. If they liked his play, it explains our whole problem on defense. He showed a lot of promise early, but hasn't been the same since the missed tackle for td at UK last year. I'd taken up for him prior to that and even did after till this game. But he was playing soft and getting us shredded on his side. Go back and watch how much they threw at him compared to how much they threw at Redmond. It's self explanatory really. He certainly didn't blow any coverages or get beat deep, but he played far too safe(timid) giving up far too easy of receptions in my opinion...
    I'm sure he was told to play safe but that was ridiculous. He did tackle pretty well after he let them catch it for 10 yards.

    I'm counting on Taveze being effective and Redmond getting an early pick to mess up Harris' head. Otherwise, it could be a long day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DancingRabbit View Post
    I'm sure he was told to play safe but that was ridiculous. He did tackle pretty well after he let them catch it for 10 yards.

    I'm counting on Taveze being effective and Redmond getting an early pick to mess up Harris' head. Otherwise, it could be a long day.
    people better understand that even when Calhoun comes back, that side is going to get picked on all year, due to the fact that Redmond is really good. Calhoun is a solid player and the second best we have but a shutdown corner, he isnt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
    I've rewatched it. If they liked his play, it explains our whole problem on defense. He showed a lot of promise early, but hasn't been the same since the missed tackle for td at UK last year. I'd taken up for him prior to that and even did after till this game. But he was playing soft and getting us shredded on his side. Go back and watch how much they threw at him compared to how much they threw at Redmond. It's self explanatory really. He certainly didn't blow any coverages or get beat deep, but he played far too safe(timid) giving up far too easy of receptions in my opinion...
    Most of their yardage came over the middle of the field, not in Cleveland's zone. Our LB's didn't do a good job of getting enough depth and our safties were playing soft. They caught a TD on Cleveland's side but that was on Market and our LB. It's very tough for the average fan like you and GreenheadDawg to evaluate film.

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    Threads like this always get me to thinking we are 17ed.

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    And I guarantee you that will be used against us in recruiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Most of their yardage came over the middle of the field, not in Cleveland's zone. Our LB's didn't do a good job of getting enough depth and our safties were playing soft. They caught a TD on Cleveland's side but that was on Market and our LB. It's very tough for the average fan like you and GreenheadDawg to evaluate film.

    Which leads to another question, wtf was DeAndre Ward doing playing so much the other night? Is he on the 2 deep? I am concerned we had opportunities to play him but not Thomas & Hoyett.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    Is he really our 4th DT? What the heck was going on with that last weekend? Was Cory Thomas suspended? Can't believe you wouldn't want to get him a few reps before LSU.
    Torrey Dale needs to be used for practice purposes only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilkyJohnson View Post
    Which leads to another question, wtf was DeAndre Ward doing playing so much the other night? Is he on the 2 deep? I am concerned we had opportunities to play him but not Thomas & Hoyett.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgwood View Post
    Torrey Dale needs to be used for practice purposes only.
    Dale did have a nice pass deflection, he is really long. The main concern I have with Dale playing is what does that mean about Thomas. I didn't expect much from Hoyette this year, but I thought Thomas would be a key player. The bottom line is, our staff went hard after 3 Juco's and missed on all 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
    He's not.
    I haven't heard what was going on.
    No idea what's going on with Cory.

    The biggest takeaway I had from game 1 was my fear of Mullen being Mullen on the stuff like this, shump+holloway over lee and Williams, no peters and mclaurin at s, etc...

    I felt like to some extent the "answers" fell in his lap last year on these very issues. But am scared of a role reversal this year...

    Also, get Jiles in that #3 corner spot. I'd been high on Cleveland, but it's obvious at this point that he doesn't have confidence for whatever reason. He played timid not to give up the big play against USM and most of those completions were directly on him for playing safe imo...
    Yep, my prediction last year of 10 wins minimum and 11 likely was based on the fact that Perkins' graduation would force Dan to use JRob more.

    My confidence this year is tempered by the hope that Dan will not do the same thing with Holloway, in particular misusing him by repeatedly running him between-the-tackles for no gain.

    Let's all hope like hell much of what disturbed us vs USM was first-game-jitters and a desire for the staff to get some game-time for some versus a weaker opponent At a minimum, let's hope Mullen uses Holloway more effectively than he did Perkins' senior year.

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    If Holloway gets very many carries vs LSU we won't have to worry about him because he will be hurt
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