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    Im going to give OM's defense some credit for that. They also tackled real well. They hit low and wrapped up low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Really?

    I agree that Coach knows what he's talking about, but, if Mullen has to read a message board for this knowledge, then he should fire every assistant coach we have. Pretty sure Mullen understands this and is doing all he can to correct it.
    What? You mean Mullen doesn't pull up Elitedawgs and put in on the screen for gameplanning pregame. Damn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    We got a FG on our 3rd drive- those were our other 5 drives of the 1st half. Dont ****ing tell me we didnt need to do a little something different
    This is just another example of Mullen shitting the bed in must win games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    This is just another example of Mullen shitting the bed in must win games.
    Nah, this is what happens when you play teams with strong defenses and armchair coaches need something to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUDawg4Life View Post
    Nah, this is what happens when you play teams with strong defenses and armchair coaches need something to do.
    You can call it whatever you like but Mullen's record vs ranked opponents is still something like 5-30. Maybe worse.

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    "shitting the bed" isn't exactly how I'd describe Mullen's actions during big games. Offensively he showed last year that we have the potential to be the best team in the nation at times. Finishing the job, in our particular circumstances in the SEC West, can take a little longer than 5 years.

    It's a damn tough hill to climb. And we're showing progress.

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    Mullen had a terrible gameplan vs Bama and Ole Missus to begin both games. Way too damn much sideways running.

    He made really good adjustments in both games- but after wasting 2 Q's- left a huge mountain to climb in both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUDawg4Life View Post
    Nah, this is what happens when you play teams with strong defenses and armchair coaches need something to do.
    1) Some of us have designed offenses and called plays- so we know wtf we are talking about.
    2) Malzahn put 44 on Bama and 35 Ole Missus...Ohio State put 42 on Bama...TCU put 42 on Ole Missus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    1) Some of us have designed offenses and called plays- so we know wtf we are talking about.
    2) Malzahn put 44 on Bama and 35 Ole Missus...Ohio State put 42 on Bama...TCU put 42 on Ole Missus
    1) Mullen's currently getting paid $4 million to design an offense. You're not.
    2) The offense Mullen runs won two national championships at Florida, one at Ohio State and helped freakin' UTAH win a game against Bama in a bowl game. I'm quite certain Dan Mullen knows MUCH MORE about designing offenses than you do.

    Grab your most comfortable chair and sit all the way down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Mullen had a terrible gameplan vs Bama and Ole Missus to begin both games. Way too damn much sideways running.

    He made really good adjustments in both games- but after wasting 2 Q's- left a huge mountain to climb in both.
    The Egg Bowl was 7-3 at half & we lead 10-7 with 9min left in the 3rd.

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    Shit. The. Bed. To start both games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    The Egg Bowl was 7-3 at half .
    Exactly- 3 points in 6 drives
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Exactly- 3 points in 6 drives
    Just saying we didn't have a huge mountain to climb & had a lead mid way thru the 3rd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUDawg4Life View Post
    1) Mullen's currently getting paid $4 million to design an offense. You're not.
    2) The offense Mullen runs won two national championships at Florida, one at Ohio State and helped freakin' UTAH win a game against Bama in a bowl game. I'm quite certain Dan Mullen knows MUCH MORE about designing offenses than you do.
    1. I gave you a 2 week time-out. Hopefully upon your return, you will have realized a message board is for talking sports and discussing everything about them. This is not Jean's Page where the Coach is always right and has never done wrong.

    2. Yes- Mullen makes $4 million to design our offense. And he didnt earn it in the 1st halves of either game. Very poor showings.

    3. Yes, Mullen does know football than me- how much? We dont know. But I have had college coaches ask me about MY offense- so they apparently saw something I did that was pretty damn good.

    4. If you gave me Tebow, The Pouncey brothers, Rainey, Demps, Harvin, Louis Murphy, Aaron Hernandez, Riley Cooper, and Deonte Thompson- my offense would have been in the top 10 in the country also.

    5. Remind me how well Mullen has done against the top defenses at State? I sure remember alot of 14 and unders against them the 5 years before Dakota
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    I dont know if our OL has been a "push" type group under Mullen (except Gabe Jackson). Its more about making creases with angles and leverage. Our OL play is more about occupying a defender until the ball carrier gets by than it is about pushing the LOS back. I also think this style lets us get by with "lesser" talent on the OL. Just my thoughts.
    This man knows what the hell he's talking about. We're a zone blocking OL. We aren't trying to blow guys off the LOS and drive them back into the LBs.
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    As far as the rollout passes, I don't think we should use that a lot but I also think it has its place. I think a rollout pass is a pretty good call in the red zone when the field shrinks and it just naturally gets packed in. Now, I wouldn't call a lot of rollout passes either- like maybe two a game. And that's just to give the defense another look.

    I do agree about throwing more screens. I think that's where not having Jameon may have hurt us some last year. Not having our slot WR healthy for most of the year actually probably limited us somewhat- which is kind of scary when you think about the numbers we put up anyway.

    I think our offensive line will be more athletic this year with Desper instead of Beckwith and Warren at LT. What that translates into as far as the running game, I don't know- but when Desper started against Texas A&M it looked to me like we pulled him a lot in both the passing and running game. So, maybe we see more counters? We have totally different running backs too- you have the three real physical guys in Shumpert, Lee, and Williams whereas last year we had Robinson who was more an outside get to the corner guy, Shumpert as the physical guy, and Griffin as the grinder who was limited by past injuries. So, I like the skill set that we have this year coming in better personally. Especially if you add in Dear. Dak was basically our inside power runner for the most part except when Shumpert was in- and I think that caused him to get beat up a little bit. But with the guys that we have now, he almost becomes more of the outside runner- which may mean more option.

    We'll have to see how it all plays out. I do think we will throw the ball more because of the WR's we have.

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    How can he get creative with a bunch of athletes who needed tutors, untimed tests, and prayer chains to get an 18 on their ACT?

    My oldest daughter got a 29. One of my other kids only got a 22...but she was in 7th grade. And neither one of these young ladies is intellectually brilliant.

    The whole point is (besides me bragging on my kids) is that it's hard to be creative and innovative with players who aren't all that bright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mutt the Hoople View Post
    How can he get creative with a bunch of athletes who needed tutors, untimed tests, and prayer chains to get an 18 on their ACT?

    My oldest daughter got a 29. One of my other kids only got a 22...but she was in 7th grade. And neither one of these young ladies is intellectually brilliant.

    The whole point is (besides me bragging on my kids) is that it's hard to be creative and innovative with players who aren't all that bright.


    It's OK to be proud of your daughter- and you should be. But no need to run down our football players in the process.

    They haven't had any trouble picking up what Dan has asked them to do so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    1. I gave you a 2 week time-out. Hopefully upon your return, you will have realized a message board is for talking sports and discussing everything about them. This is not Jean's Page where the Coach is always right and has never done wrong.
    Haha guy disagrees once C34 kills him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    Haha guy disagrees once C34 kills him
    No- he wanted to be a smartass and be personal instead of bolstering his arguments with stats and facts. This ain't Jean's page where the Coach is always right. Facts are that Mullen's offenses have been kicked in the teeth by good defenses. We need a little "something else" to get over the hump. Malzahn made a DB a QB and scored 44 on Bama and 35 on Ole Missus. He didn't just say "shit, they are good on defense"
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