If what we are hearing is correct

[gravedigger]

Why "no way" is an athletic dr in on this?

At the very least he's complicit in the culture that existed. And make no mistake, Archie knew damn well he couldn't select someone that might not listen to their cigar boys.

[OilBoyHail]

Wonder why Robert Kimdeiche isn't practicing? My cousin is a big Reb, involved in "recruiting clubs" he said they are holding he and CJ out for "injuries" and he said he's not worried about their physical status, he's worried about the legal status

[Coach34]

Wonder why Robert Kimdeiche isn't practicing? My cousin is a big Reb, involved in "recruiting clubs" he said they are holding he and CJ out for "injuries" and he said he's not worried about their physical status, he's worried about the legal status

I dont see them holding anyone out. Just my opinion though

[OilBoyHail]

I agree. My take from what he sent me was that in the circles he runs in, they are worried or at least viewing things differently than the staff because from the stuff he knows some guys could be seriously hit. They cover up good though, 300k for tunsil off though, not that high. That was the OL pool though

[Political Hack]

Wonder why Robert Kimdeiche isn't practicing? My cousin is a big Reb, involved in "recruiting clubs" he said they are holding he and CJ out for "injuries" and he said he's not worried about their physical status, he's worried about the legal status

LMAO

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[biggun]

I seriously doubt Bobby Boy has anything of substance outside of potential receipts from OM players gambling through him or providing inside tips to him for money. And that's a big if...

I do however think that at least 4, maybe 5, other schools have had officials talk to the NCAA about what they know/have on OM. I also think it's going to take the NCAA at least a year if not two to figure it all out. I also do not expect to see Tunsil, CJ, Kailo, Connor, and maybe A. Golson playing against Vandy.

IMO, Hack's last sentence will determine the validity of many of the stories and rumors flying around TSUN lately, especially regarding Tunsil and A.Golson. If both of them play against Vandy, which just 3 weeks was a 100% given that both would play early and often against the Commodores, then all signs will point to "much adieu about nothing" regarding the massive investigation into the Rebel program and the rumors of their demise will disappear quicker than a fart in a wind.

Here's hoping for news next week that Tunsil has an "ankle" and Golson a "hammy strain" which will prevent both of them from making the trip to Nashville!!

[AlSwearengen]

I'm admittedly way out of my lane when it comes to knowing how the ncaa works, so here are my questions. If Golson and Tunsil, or for that matter any player in this past recruiting class is made to sit, what does that say about how far along the investigation is? Does the ncaa need to have some evidence of wrong doing to advise a school to sit a player? How long has it been since the ncaa started looking into cj johnson? They just recently (past week) talked to chris jones, so have they already checked on the others? I just find it surprising that they would have had time to look into the players mentioned by hack.

[Coach34]

How long has it been since the ncaa started looking into cj johnson? They just recently (past week) talked to chris jones, so have they already checked on the others? I just find it surprising that they would have had time to look into the players mentioned by hack.

That's what nobody really knows at this point. They could have been investigating for 2 months or 2 weeks

[Sandman14]

I'm on record as saying this is a huge farce and you'll see every one of these guys playing against Vandy...the ones that are good enough to play, anyhow...and if anything comes of any of this it will be 3 years from now.

I don't care if I'm wrong or right...frankly I'm not that big on seeing people go on probation. My position is that you should just "try harder" if you are getting beaten on the recruiting trail. But anyway, from where I'm standing, this is all a bunch of hogwash started as rumors by MSU folk.

Kemdeechee supposedly has been practicing so I don't know what that talk is about. But hey, I of course am not a witness.

NCAA is definitely in Oxford and interviewing folks, though. so it's not like the whole matter is baseless. I just don't see any substantiation for these rank rumors about specific players.

[Coach34]

Soooooo, Sandman say its a farce- but the NCAA is definitely interviewing players

Gotcha

[Marooned]

the boosters have always run Ole Miss' program. During the Brewer era and even before him you didn't play if you weren't a booster's child.

[CadaverDawg]

Soooooo, Sandman say its a farce- but the NCAA is definitely interviewing players

Gotcha

Typical.

[Todd4State]

IMO, Hack's last sentence will determine the validity of many of the stories and rumors flying around TSUN lately, especially regarding Tunsil and A.Golson. If both of them play against Vandy, which just 3 weeks was a 100% given that both would play early and often against the Commodores, then all signs will point to "much adieu about nothing" regarding the massive investigation into the Rebel program and the rumors of their demise will disappear quicker than a fart in a wind.

Here's hoping for news next week that Tunsil has an "ankle" and Golson a "hammy strain" which will prevent both of them from making the trip to Nashville!!

And since when has Ole Miss not been about perception ever? I expect them to play all of those guys and vacate the games later if they win. Even their most delusional people don't expect a SEC title or anything like that. They don't have anything to lose really. They are not going to admit guilt that easily. And on top of that, I fully expect them to fight all of this as well.

When they play those guys they can say to their masses "See elitedawgs, Coach and Flab were all wrong! Nothing to see here! It's MSU that's going to be on probation! Mordecai 12:34 and Fins up!"

Plus, they paid way too much on these players to not get anything out of them.

[CadaverDawg]

And since when has Ole Miss not been about perception ever? I expect them to play all of those guys and vacate the games later if they win. Even their most delusional people don't expect a SEC title or anything like that. They don't have anything to lose really. They are not going to admit guilt that easily. And on top of that, I fully expect them to fight all of this as well.

When they play those guys they can say to their masses "See elitedawgs, Coach and Flab were all wrong! Nothing to see here! It's MSU that's going to be on probation! Mordecai 12:34 and Fins up!"

Plus, they paid way too much on these players to not get anything out of them.

This is spot on.

[Todd4State]

the boosters have always run Ole Miss' program. During the Brewer era and even before him you didn't play if you weren't a booster's child.

Or were a 4-5 star recruit. You are right- they have more legacies on their team than any other program I have ever see except for maybe Alabama.

There are two things that are certain to make Ole Miss fans mad.

1. MSU getting a 4-5 star recruit. Especially one from a high profile high school in Mississippi like Madison Central, Olive Branch, or South Panola.

2. MSU getting an Ole Miss legacy to play football for them. If we had gotten Peyton or Eli to come to MSU, we would probably have to provide them with some sort of bodyguards. When Peyton went to Tennessee, they completely lost it. And that was pre-Internet recruiting.

[Marooned]

if they sit them that is usually a good indication that the school feels there could be problems with there eligibility. If they played them and then they are ruled ineligible then they forfit all those games they played in, a chance most schools don't risk taking. If OM has CJ, Tunsil, Nkimdashian and others sitting for the Vandy game it is a very good indication they are screwed. They can't hide behind "injuries" because injured players are generally allowed to travel but if there are eligibility issues they cannot travel with team.

[AlSwearengen]

I'm with Todd on this. I can't imagine olemiss sitting any of their players after watching auburn play cam. I actually think auburn's run of buying players during their stretch emboldened olemiss to a certain extent. Olemiss would much rather win a game and have to vacate it later for perception purposes. And I'm sure, in the back of their minds, they believe their lawyers are going to fight off any penalties from the ncaa.

[RougeDawg]

They didn't spend $1.5m on their recruiting class. They have $1.5m in their slush fund.

Why not? They've been known to spend upwards of $100k on single recruits. And if the spent the alleged $300K on Tunsil, the $1.5 mil is on the low end of last year if you can connect the dots.

[msstate7]

I'm with Todd on this. I can't imagine olemiss sitting any of their players after watching auburn play cam. I actually think auburn's run of buying players during their stretch emboldened olemiss to a certain extent. Olemiss would much rather win a game and have to vacate it later for perception purposes. And I'm sure, in the back of their minds, they believe their lawyers are going to fight off any penalties from the ncaa.

I agree they probably won't sit any players. OM should be careful though if they're using auburn and cam as their example of how to handle these situations. Auburn was a national champion contender with the premier player in college football. The NCAA and sec were looking for any reason to let it go. OM is nowhere near that position. If the NCAA levels OM with penalties, who outside of MS will even care? Will it hurt the sec or tv ratings? In fact, I can see OM getting harsh penalties just so the NCAA looks tough again. I can even see the sec offering up OM as a sacrifice to protect the real players in this conference.

[Bully13]

I agree they probably won't sit any players. OM should be careful though if they're using auburn and cam as their example of how to handle these situations. Auburn was a national champion contender with the premier player in college football. The NCAA and sec were looking for any reason to let it go. OM is nowhere near that position. If the NCAA levels OM with penalties, who outside of MS will even care? Will it hurt the sec or tv ratings? In fact, I can see OM getting harsh penalties just so the NCAA looks tough again. I can even see the sec offering up OM as a sacrifice to protect the real players in this conference.

this is what I'm thinking and hoping will happen. makes sense 7