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07-03-2015, 12:50 PM
#1121

Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
In other words, we're giving up on Bethancourt. Trading Gattis was the worst move of the offseason, even if we did get Folty for him.
The Braves clearly we're not comfortable with Gattis at catcher going forward, so it really doesn't play into this. The Astros haven't been comfortable with it, either.
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07-03-2015, 01:34 PM
#1122
Over the next 10 games, we face all 3 last place teams in the nl (Phillies x3, at Brewers x3, at Rockies x4). In this same period, the mets schedule is brutal (at Dodgers x3, at Giants x3, dbacks x3). The nats schedule is so-so (Giants x3, Reds x3, at Orioles x3).
It'll be very interesting what hart does if we move into 2nd place and down only 3 to the nats at the break with FF coming back
Since FF's injury, here's the list of pitchers we've faced...
Buchholz, deGrom, syndergaard, Harvey, Strasburg, Zimmermann, fister, liriano, Morton, Locke, Zimmermann, fister, and scherzer
That's a pretty tough stretch for a healthy team. It's pretty brutal if you take a team's best hitter away. I think you'll see the offense come back some starting tonight.
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07-03-2015, 04:23 PM
#1123
@DOBrienAJC
#Braves Vizcaino activated from DL with Triple-A Gwinnett, eligible to rejoin big-league club Sat. (80-game PED suspensio
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07-03-2015, 06:08 PM
#1124

Originally Posted by
smootness
The Braves clearly we're not comfortable with Gattis at catcher going forward, so it really doesn't play into this. The Astros haven't been comfortable with it, either.
The Astros have Jason Castro. No way you don't put him behind the plate. Big difference. The idea that Gattis wasn't a catcher is laughable to me, considering he's been a catcher his whole life and made it to The Show catching. Yet somehow a pinhead in a suit decides a guy can't play that position? It's insanity. The pitching staff loved Gattis back there. That should count for something.
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22

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07-03-2015, 08:18 PM
#1125
Steve Janas got promoted from Carolina to Mississippi.
Carolina stats...
37.0 ip 0.49 era 4 bb 18 h 24 k
His first start tonight for miss...
5.2 ip 0 er 0 bb 3 h 3 k
I don't even know who he is. Hopefully he keeps this up
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07-03-2015, 08:24 PM
#1126

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Steve Janas got promoted from Carolina to Mississippi.
Carolina stats...
37.0 ip 0.49 era 4 bb 18 h 24 k
His first start tonight for miss...
5.2 ip 0 er 0 bb 3 h 3 k
I don't even know who he is. Hopefully he keeps this up
Geez, no kidding. Now we've got pitching prospects coming out of nowhere. No wonder we're willing to shop a couple for a bat. Going to be interesting to see what we do at the deadline. Still think I'd stand pat this season and wait for next year.
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22

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07-03-2015, 09:09 PM
#1127
Peterson now 5 for his last 44. 15 k's and 3 walks in that stretch. Peterson better start hitting again or he could find himself replaced by peraza
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07-03-2015, 09:59 PM
#1128
Janas is a 23 year old RHP. 6th round pick out of Kennesaw State in 2013. 6'5", 195 lbs.
Matt Marksberry is another pitching prospect from that draft that just got promoted to Gwinnett in the past week. 6'2", 195 lbs lefty out of Campbell College.
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07-03-2015, 10:02 PM
#1129

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Peterson now 5 for his last 44. 15 k's and 3 walks in that stretch. Peterson better start hitting again or he could find himself replaced by peraza
Peraza was 9 for his last 44 with zero walks
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07-03-2015, 10:11 PM
#1130

Originally Posted by
KB21
Peraza was 9 for his last 44 with zero walks
Only 5 k's though, 8 rbi's, and 2 sb's.
For the record, I'm a Peterson fan and don't want him replaced. I could definitely see peraza getting his shot though if Peterson continues to struggle. I don't think Peterson would be sent down though... Just having both up
Last edited by msstate7; 07-03-2015 at 10:29 PM.
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07-03-2015, 10:17 PM
#1131
?@BravesReddit
Ozhaino Albies extended his hitting streak to 15 games.
Now hitting .393/.414/.515 during that span
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Wren left our farm in a mess, but he did do something right. He left us with albies and Davidson. I think both are gonna be outstanding
Last edited by msstate7; 07-03-2015 at 10:34 PM.
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07-03-2015, 10:30 PM
#1132

Originally Posted by
msstate7
?@BravesReddit
Ozhaino Albies extended his hitting streak to 15 games.
Now hitting .393/.414/.515 during that span
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Hart left our farm in a mess, but he did do something right. He left us with albies and Davidson. I think both are gonna be outstanding
You mean Wren. The return of Roy Clark to the organization and the promotion of Brian Bridges to scouting director will change the draft outlook for the Braves. Getting Chad MacDonald as a "special assistant" to the GM was big as well.
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07-03-2015, 10:33 PM
#1133

Originally Posted by
KB21
You mean Wren. The return of Roy Clark to the organization and the promotion of Brian Bridges to scouting director will change the draft outlook for the Braves. Getting Chad MacDonald as a "special assistant" to the GM was big as well.
Yep. Oops
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07-04-2015, 02:01 AM
#1134

Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
The Astros have Jason Castro. No way you don't put him behind the plate. Big difference. The idea that Gattis wasn't a catcher is laughable to me, considering he's been a catcher his whole life and made it to The Show catching. Yet somehow a pinhead in a suit decides a guy can't play that position? It's insanity. The pitching staff loved Gattis back there. That should count for something.
You're right about Castro. Even still, Castro hasn't played 70 games this year and yet Gattis still hasn't caught even 1 inning for them. He was a catcher throughout the minors because the Braves hoped he could develop there enough to play it in the majors, not because he was a catcher. Every scouting report for him coming through the minors said that he was anywhere from a butcher behind the plate to not horrific but not good enough to stick there in the majors. He did look decent enough there in a short span in Atlanta, but 1) he's already not that close from 30, which is not a good age for a catcher, and 2) the Braves and pretty much everyone else have agreed that he isn't good enough to stick at catcher long-term in the majors.
You may disagree, and I'm even slightly skeptical of that after seeing him, but it is a pretty large consensus. So regardless of your feelings on him as a catcher, the Braves didn't feel he was a legitimate option there, so the trade makes sense from that standpoint.
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07-04-2015, 02:40 AM
#1135

Originally Posted by
smootness
You're right about Castro. Even still, Castro hasn't played 70 games this year and yet Gattis still hasn't caught even 1 inning for them. He was a catcher throughout the minors because the Braves hoped he could develop there enough to play it in the majors, not because he was a catcher. Every scouting report for him coming through the minors said that he was anywhere from a butcher behind the plate to not horrific but not good enough to stick there in the majors. He did look decent enough there in a short span in Atlanta, but 1) he's already not that close from 30, which is not a good age for a catcher, and 2) the Braves and pretty much everyone else have agreed that he isn't good enough to stick at catcher long-term in the majors.
You may disagree, and I'm even slightly skeptical of that after seeing him, but it is a pretty large consensus. So regardless of your feelings on him as a catcher, the Braves didn't feel he was a legitimate option there, so the trade makes sense from that standpoint.
1) I get the age argument, but Gattis was out of the game for several years. His knees don't have the wear and tear most catchers do by their late 20s. Just seems like a cop out excuse from suits in an office.
2) That may be the consensus, but my eyes told me a different story after watching him for the better part of two seasons. Put it like this, after watching Gattis last year and watching Bethancourt this year, if I didn't know anything about either and you told me that Bethancourt is supposed to be the defensive stud between the two, I'd laugh in your face and call you insane.
We got a lot for Gattis, it just irks me to see a guy get run down by a bunch of guys sitting in an office who either never played or haven't played in about 120 years. It just seems like Gattis got a reputation early on in the minors, fairly or not, and it never changed regardless of how he actually played. Especially when he's a guy who'd be a huge upgrade in the middle of our lineup this season. Having Markakis batting 4 with 0 HRs this close to the ASB is horrific. I know he's not a 20+ HR guy, but he's been pretty consistent about hitting 15 HRs. At this point I'll be shocked if he winds up with 10. He needs to be hitting 2 or 8 if he isn't providing any sort of power threat behind Freeman.
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22

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07-04-2015, 07:49 AM
#1136
Austin Riley went 1 for 3 with a double yesterday. He also made his third error of the year at 3B. He has his average up to .183 on the year.
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07-04-2015, 08:01 AM
#1137
Mallex smith yesterday's double header...
4-9 with a double, triple, and an assist
He's now hitting .250 in AAA.
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07-04-2015, 08:04 AM
#1138
Eric young jr is now hitting .289 in AAA. Wonder if we see him again soon.
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07-04-2015, 02:33 PM
#1139
Kevin McAlpin ?@KevinMcAlpin 32s33 seconds ago
#Braves reliever Andrew McKirahan will begin a rehab assignment with Gwinnett.
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07-04-2015, 07:01 PM
#1140

Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
In other words, we're giving up on Bethancourt. Trading Gattis was the worst move of the offseason, even if we did get Folty for him.
more like we have decided he'll be a backup C, not a starter. that was always a very likely possibility.
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