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Originally Posted by
Jacksondevildog
Per a player on our team, Cohen tells the guys to "flick" the ball through the middle of the infield. Had him tell me that to my face. That's not an aggressive approach. That's not a power approach. I'm a Cohen guy, but our baseball coaches at MSU are not above criticism. Some people really get butt hurt on here.
I've heard the exact same thing from people on the team.
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He lived with you all summer?
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Originally Posted by
5 Star
Mainly because he was always a talented hitter, but he was one year older, wiser and more developed. Spare us all the idiotic explanations of hitting mechanics. You wannabes take this stuff too seriously, it's much simpler than you want it to be.
The guy batted .564 with 12 bombs and was Ohio POY his senior year of high school. He didn't get 'coached up' suddenly, his talent was always there. You know who had similar high school numbers? Reid Humphreys.
You and Smitty are the most argumentative and annoying baseball posters I have ever witnessed. I personally think you're just trying to prove something to yourselves.
Excellent and accurate. Also he had hand surgery which he recovered fully from.
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Originally Posted by
5 Star
By the way, I have heard the same about Cohen pushing for up the middle hitting. I don't know how true it is, though, so I won't criticize anyone for it. It may be a good strategy for all I know.
That is what I always taught as a 2-strike approach- dont pull off the ball and think gap to gap. Keeps you from getting amped and being fooled by offspeed. I cant even fathom that being our overall philosophy at the plate.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Funny this use the middle of the field talk comes up. Guess nobody was watching the glorious o'sullivan talk about why his team had such a big 4th inning, and I paraphrase,( because we started trying to use the middle of the field and quit trying to pull the ball) it's a common coaching theme except when we use it.
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The common theme is not flicking the ball and hitting a medium ground ball and using our dynamic speed to beat out an infield single. Staying through the middle in an approach is fine, but trying to hit a sand wedge fade ground ball is not.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
Funny this use the middle of the field talk comes up. Guess nobody was watching the glorious o'sullivan talk about why his team had such a big 4th inning, and I paraphrase,( because we started trying to use the middle of the field and quit trying to pull the ball) it's a common coaching theme except when we use it.
I've been told that in batting practice Cohen has a points system for each swing. In this points system a ball that hits off the L screen, regardless of how hard it is hit, has a higher value than a line drive off the left field wall. Teaching hitters to hit the ball up the middle is pretty much a universal hitting philosophy in baseball, as it should be. But its a problem to me when getting shafted and hitting a floater into the L screen is rewarded more than drilling the ball. It sends the wrong message to the hitters and doesn't encourage them to take aggressive swings.
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Using the middle of the field and everyone try to swing like Ichiro are not the same.
It's well established Cohen and crew are not on SEC level offensively. We at least have a track record of success with Butch, overall pitching has been good. Overall hitting has not.
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People on this board will swear that you are lying, but that is 100% fact.

Originally Posted by
WeWonItAll(Most)
I've been told that in batting practice Cohen has a points system for each swing. In this points system a ball that hits off the L screen, regardless of how hard it is hit, has a higher value than a line drive off the left field wall. Teaching hitters to hit the ball up the middle is pretty much a universal hitting philosophy in baseball, as it should be. But its a problem to me when getting shafted and hitting a floater into the L screen is rewarded more than drilling the ball. It sends the wrong message to the hitters and doesn't encourage them to take aggressive swings.
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Originally Posted by
Smitty
Using the middle of the field and everyone try to swing like Ichiro are not the same.
It's well established Cohen and crew are not on SEC level offensively. We at least have a track record of success with Butch, overall pitching has been good. Overall hitting has not.
Correct and we aren't teaching everyone to hit like ichiro either. Our hitting wasn't up to par, neither was our pitching, with that said you don't know jack shit about either.
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Homedawg never misses a chance to promote the genius of Cohen
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Originally Posted by
WeWonItAll(Most)
I've been told that in batting practice Cohen has a points system for each swing.
Ron Polk was doing this 30 years ago
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Ron Polk was doing this 30 years ago
The thing isn't the points system. It's how the things are valued in Cohens system
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Originally Posted by
Smitty
The thing isn't the points system. It's how the things are valued in Cohens system
Also lifted directly from Polk.
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Originally Posted by
Smitty
Homedawg never misses a chance to promote the genius of Cohen
You are incorrect there was no promotion there. It was strictly saying how you don't know jack shit. Stop deflecting from yourself.
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Originally Posted by
I seen it dawg
You are incorrect there was no promotion there. It was strictly saying how you don't know jack shit. Stop deflecting from yourself.
You're homedawg? Maybe that is known, sorry if I'm behind.
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Originally Posted by
scottycameron
You're homedawg? Maybe that is known, sorry if I'm behind.
No
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Originally Posted by
I seen it dawg
You are incorrect there was no promotion there. It was strictly saying how you don't know jack shit. Stop deflecting from yourself.
This.
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Originally Posted by
Smitty
Homedawg never misses a chance to promote the genius of Cohen
Your response shows you know nothing. I simply said we didn't teach everyone to hit like ichiro. Which clearly isnt true. I say our hitting nor our pitching was up to par- you say I run to defend Cohen. How? I said we weren't good? We have to be better!!! Period. I'd love to be locked in a room w you to talk baseball- I'd have a field day w your ass. And absolute field day.
Last edited by Homedawg; 06-14-2015 at 06:09 PM.
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Partially true, coach Polk had a point system for each swing during a game. He didn't have one for batting practice. Just for clarification
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