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06-14-2015, 02:46 PM
#861
Bethancourt and Gwinnett need to be on a midnight train to Georgia (Gwinnett).
Lavarnway or Nieves are better options catching right now.
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06-14-2015, 03:36 PM
#862
Unless Thurman becomes a great player, Houston might have got the best of us on the gattis trade. We now have a serious hole at catcher and I'm not sold on folty to say the least. Gattis' bat between FF and markakis would've made us a very good offensive team. Ruiz has yet to hit well at AA, but is picking it up
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06-14-2015, 04:09 PM
#863
I think we should revisit that lucroy trade. Trade folty, Bethancourt, and peraza for lucroy and a decent prospect
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06-14-2015, 04:16 PM
#864
@grantmcauley
Only team that has scored more than #Braves' 68 R this month is #BlueJays (88 R). Atlanta is 5-8, Toronto is 11-1 (11 G win streak) in June.
Wow
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06-14-2015, 07:48 PM
#865

Originally Posted by
msstate7
I think we should revisit that lucroy trade. Trade folty, Bethancourt, and peraza for lucroy and a decent prospect
Unfortunately, the Brewers have seen enough of Bethancourt that they'll never go for that. We're essentially ****ed at C with O'Dowd being suspended. Nieves stint in the majors may have been worse than Bethancourt's so far.
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22

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06-15-2015, 11:21 AM
#866
@Braves
Roster move: Braves have optioned C Christian Bethancourt to Gwinnett and have selected contract of C Ryan Lavarnway from @GwinnettBraves
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06-15-2015, 12:29 PM
#867
Hell. Yes!
Got the BR alert on my phone. To say I'm happy is an understatement. It was one thing for Bethancourt to not hit. He never really has at any level. But he was supposed to be a defensive freak of nature, and to say he's been bad defensively is an understatement. For me, that's inexcusable. Either he was way overhyped or he's a head case. Either way, bad for us.
And I know I've gone beyond beating the dead horse, but the Gattis trade was by far the most "WTF" move of the offseason by Hart. We gutted our lineup of a legit power bat and a pretty good defensive C who the pitchers liked. And it's not like Gattis had a massive contract, either. He was basically making league minimum with club control for several years. Not to mention he didn't have nearly the amount of tread off the tires that most older C prospects have because of the time away from baseball.
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22

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06-15-2015, 12:41 PM
#868

Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
Hell. Yes!
Got the BR alert on my phone. To say I'm happy is an understatement. It was one thing for Bethancourt to not hit. He never really has at any level. But he was supposed to be a defensive freak of nature, and to say he's been bad defensively is an understatement. For me, that's inexcusable. Either he was way overhyped or he's a head case. Either way, bad for us.
And I know I've gone beyond beating the dead horse, but the Gattis trade was by far the most "WTF" move of the offseason by Hart. We gutted our lineup of a legit power bat and a pretty good defensive C who the pitchers liked. And it's not like Gattis had a massive contract, either. He was basically making league minimum with club control for several years. Not to mention he didn't have nearly the amount of tread off the tires that most older C prospects have because of the time away from baseball.
I'm getting worried about that trade now. We have no catcher. If we don't get weiters, we might not have a catcher next season. Ruiz is struggling in AA, although hes picking it up some. I think folty is destined to be a reliever. Thurman may or may not work out.
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06-15-2015, 04:18 PM
#869
Cunningham to Gwinnett. Sugar ray recalled
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06-15-2015, 08:23 PM
#870

Originally Posted by
msstate7
I'm getting worried about that trade now. We have no catcher. If we don't get weiters, we might not have a catcher next season. Ruiz is struggling in AA, although hes picking it up some. I think folty is destined to be a reliever. Thurman may or may not work out.
Folty will come along. he has shown the stuff and the makeup, just has to learn. takes most SP about 2-3 years in the show to put it all together.
i love Gattis, but that was a good trade. too risky to retain him with a questionable knee and back for a rebuilding year. we've been spoiled at C for awhile, we'll have to get used to defense-first backstops again. an OF that isn't terrible offensively is a must now though.
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06-15-2015, 08:29 PM
#871
Excited to say that i will be at Fenway tomorrow night for the Braves/Red Sox game. My first ever trip to Fenway. Im up here on business, and our meeting finishes up right at game time so im planning to walk over. Getting to see my favorite team (Braves) vs my favorite AL team.
Any suggestions on things to buy, eat, see, take pics of, etc at Fenway? Its somewhat spur of the moment so i havent had time to prepare really.
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06-15-2015, 08:32 PM
#872

Originally Posted by
CadaverDawg
Excited to say that i will be at Fenway tomorrow night for the Braves/Red Sox game. My first ever trip to Fenway. Im up here on business, and our meeting finishes up right at game time so im planning to walk over. Getting to see my favorite team (Braves) vs my favorite AL team.
Any suggestions on things to buy, eat, see, take pics of, etc at Fenway? Its somewhat spur of the moment so i havent had time to prepare really.
Never been go can't suggest anything, but I'm extremely jealous. Have fun
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06-15-2015, 08:34 PM
#873

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Never been go can't suggest anything, but I'm extremely jealous. Have fun
Ive never been to a Braves game in Atlanta, and i grew up a HUGE Bravos fan. I bet you have me beat there, ha
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06-15-2015, 08:36 PM
#874

Originally Posted by
CadaverDawg
Ive never been to a Braves game in Atlanta, and i grew up a HUGE Bravos fan. I bet you have me beat there, ha
Yeah, just never a road game... much less Fenway
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06-15-2015, 08:51 PM
#875
Another good outing by Perez and another nice trade for Hart when we got Uribe. His avg has gone up and made us a little better defensively. The number of moves he made and so many look very good. Just shows what a really good GM can do. Exciting to see what this team will be for a few years. Obviously there are holes to shore up but you see pieces already coming into place. Solve catcher, LF, bullpen, and 3rd with money relief coming, these things can be solved over the next 1 1/2 years to be ready for new park. And think we contend next year anyway...depending on who is the manager.
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06-15-2015, 08:59 PM
#876

Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
Another good outing by Perez and another nice trade for Hart when we got Uribe. His avg has gone up and made us a little better defensively. The number of moves he made and so many look very good. Just shows what a really good GM can do. Exciting to see what this team will be for a few years. Obviously there are holes to shore up but you see pieces already coming into place. Solve catcher, LF, bullpen, and 3rd with money relief coming, these things can be solved over the next 1 1/2 years to be ready for new park. And think we contend next year anyway...depending on who is the manager.
I'm ready to see what toscano can do in lf. Surely he'll be assigned to a minor league team soon.
Anxious to see if mckirahan and vizcaino will be guys we can depend on going into next year. Shae Simmons will be back season. I think folty will be in the pen next season along with one of banuelos or wisler with the other being a starter.
Catcher is the biggest question mark going into next season. We really need to sign weiters
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06-15-2015, 09:12 PM
#877

Originally Posted by
msstate7
I'm ready to see what toscano can do in lf. Surely he'll be assigned to a minor league team soon.
Anxious to see if mckirahan and vizcaino will be guys we can depend on going into next year. Shae Simmons will be back season. I think folty will be in the pen next season along with one of banuelos or wisler with the other being a starter.
Catcher is the biggest question mark going into next season. We really need to sign weiters
Toscano isn't going to be a power guy though. My main hope with him is he can be good enough defensively because I think he can be high .200-.300 type of hitter.
I agree with you a good bit but let's don't jump the gun on Folty just yet. He has had some adjustment periods at different levels and he is still about where or ahead of guys like Smoltz were for their first 70 MLB innings and some of that was in Houston. I want to see where he is at several points through his first 200-250 innings. Now I'm not saying he won't go to the pen at some point but I don't give up just year on a top of the order guy at just 70 innings.
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06-15-2015, 09:27 PM
#878

Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
Toscano isn't going to be a power guy though. My main hope with him is he can be good enough defensively because I think he can be high .200-.300 type of hitter.
I agree with you a good bit but let's don't jump the gun on Folty just yet. He has had some adjustment periods at different levels and he is still about where or ahead of guys like Smoltz were for their first 70 MLB innings and some of that was in Houston. I want to see where he is at several points through his first 200-250 innings. Now I'm not saying he won't go to the pen at some point but I don't give up just year on a top of the order guy at just 70 innings.
I'm not giving up on folty. I do think wisler will be a better pitcher though and banuelos is a lefty so that gives him an advantage. Not sure when fried will be cleared, but he could be a 2nd half option.
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06-15-2015, 09:40 PM
#879

Originally Posted by
msstate7
I'm not giving up on folty. I do think wisler will be a better pitcher though and banuelos is a lefty so that gives him an advantage. Not sure when fried will be cleared, but he could be a 2nd half option.
They could be. But we have to consider with who we have now and what is waiting in the wings, some will be possibly moved in deals as well. There will still be several changes in our pitching rotation and pen over the next few years. And some may go back and forth until getting into the right fit.
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06-16-2015, 04:55 PM
#880
Teheran's era continue to rise. 4.98... Will he even be in our rotation in '17? Wood and miller are probably locks. Teheran, Perez, folty, wisler, Jenkins, banuelos, Jenkins, and fried will compete for other 3 spots. I have zero confidence in Teheran right now
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