Quote Originally Posted by shoeless joe View Post
Not real sure what you're even saying other than you think fredi sucks. I'm not going to defend fredi, although I've somehow been labeled as his defender, I will say that he has only 1 reliable option in the pen. I will also say that I've heard folks complain about him over using pen guys early, and now people bitch when he mixes it up. So I've come to this conclusion...folks who want fredi gone are going to pick apart every decision even when it's not ultimately on him...which is the case with the pen. AGAIN I will say that I don't think a change would be a bad thing IF a better replacement is lined up, but let's only blame fredi for what's on him. A shittastic bullpen with no good option to get consistent 7th-8th inning outs isn't on him.

Don't be a blind follower...
I've praised Fredi for his personnel managment for years, while criticizing his bullpen management. he is who he is, so i don't know why you feel compelled to defend his horrible bullpen management. good bullpen or bad bullpen, he makes horrible bullpen management decisions. your compulsion to pass off his horrible decisions as the fault of a bad pen is just poor analysis. it's more obvious now that he doesn't have an ace bullpen to cover for his poor matchup decisions, but he has always made these mistakes.

but please, explain to me why a 'shitastic bullpen' can afford to hold its closer until the 9th in ALL cases. or can afford to blow its only leftie in the 6th inning with 2 outs and no one on. i'm anxious to hear why those decisions are the fault of the bullpen, and not the manager.