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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayburn8 View Post
    NFL GMs have come out and said it is not the Christian thing. It is the media firestorm around him. GMs have said they would love to have a guy like Tebow on their team but they can't do it because of the Media circus around him.
    That's true. No team wants to deal with media distraction for a backup. Same deal with Michael Sam. Why put up with the distraction for guys who may never take any meaningful snaps. Guys like Adrian Peterson & Greg Hardy will have media swarming them too but they'll still be employed. The reason why is they're elite talents. The more talent you have the more you can get away with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoeless joe View Post
    So his QBR is slightly lower than those guys who are currently in the NFL and even started as recently as last year? Doesn't really help your point.
    Are you serious? Lowest QBR in the entire NFL isn't that bad? Surely you jest.

    Quote Originally Posted by scottycameron View Post
    The girls get confused about fantasy football and football non fantasy version. They don't give out the Lonbardy for ratings or fantasy points, boys.
    What? Who is talking about fantasy points?

    Edit: This is why some people don't like Tebow: His "fans" that defend him through even the most solid proof that he is not a good QB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    That's true. No team wants to deal with media distraction for a backup. Same deal with Michael Sam. Why put up with the distraction for guys who may never take any meaningful snaps. Guys like Adrian Peterson & Greg Hardy will have media swarming them too but they'll still be employed. The reason why is they're elite talents. The more talent you have the more you can get away with.
    It's the b.s/talent ratio - Tebow is on the wrong end of that. Alot of it isn't his fault, but that's how it goes. If I'm his agent, I point out to him he is a college football legend, has an excellent future in television both of which will keep him well paid and healthy. There is no shame in being one of the best college athletes of all time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lefty96 View Post
    It's the b.s/talent ratio - Tebow is on the wrong end of that. Alot of it isn't his fault, but that's how it goes. If I'm his agent, I point out to him he is a college football legend, has an excellent future in television both of which will keep him well paid and healthy. There is no shame in being one of the best college athletes of all time.
    Like I said. The media killed Tebow's career. Not anything Tebow did himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lefty96 View Post
    It's the b.s/talent ratio - Tebow is on the wrong end of that. Alot of it isn't his fault, but that's how it goes. If I'm his agent, I point out to him he is a college football legend, has an excellent future in television both of which will keep him well paid and healthy. There is no shame in being one of the best college athletes of all time.
    So as his agent, you would advise him to not sign with the Eagles? Considering tebow wants to play, you'd be fired I would think. TV will be there whether this works out or not

    Oh and tebow signing with the Eagles will get his name back on the front page again thus maximizing tebow's earning potential from sponsors. It'd be dumb to turn this down imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    So as his agent, you would advise him to not sign with the Eagles? Considering tebow wants to play, you'd be fired I would think. TV will be there whether this works out or not

    Oh and tebow signing with the Eagles will get his name back on the front page again thus maximizing tebow's earning potential from sponsors. It'd be dumb to turn this down imo
    Well, it wasn't exactly a literal statement, I was unaware people might miss that. It was more of a statement that I think his future is off the field and he should just get on with it.

    I'm not sure it helps him with sponsors. The Rudy story was great cuz it was a movie and it was over in 2 hours, at some point the media will get tired of this cycle - ask Brett Favre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lefty96 View Post
    Well, it wasn't exactly a literal statement, I was unaware people might miss that. It was more of a statement that I think his future is off the field and he should just get on with it.

    I'm not sure it helps him with sponsors. The Rudy story was great cuz it was a movie and it was over in 2 hours, at some point the media will get tired of this cycle - ask Brett Favre.
    Well everyone had kinda moved on from tebow, but this signing will rekindle extreme interest from his fans and haters. If tebow somehow starts this year for the Eagles, his brand will explode again. His agent is loving this move bc it's no risk/high reward. Like I said before, tebow will always have TV.

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    By getting all these qb's that have flaws, Kelly is setting himself up to be the next bill Walsh or the next HC at lsu (college team somewhere) imo

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    Yikes .. Quaoarsking ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Yawn. Tim Tebow has 42-26 approval among "very liberal" people and 43-14 among "somewhat liberal" people. Also 41-19 among Obama voters and 44-17 among self-identified Democrats. (citation). I'm certainly in the plurality.

    But I guess it's more fun to make up a persecution complex, isn't it?
    Can' believe you just cited a Poll taken from "..923 registered Florida voters ."

    A poll made up of 100% Florida voters IS NOT going to tell you ANYTHING about what 95%of the country thinks about Tim Tebow. Big % love him 'cause he won the NC for the Gators .. big % 'hate him' 'cause he won a NC for the gators. BUT Florida does not mirror the rest of the 'real world.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiscuitEater View Post
    Can' believe you just cited a Poll taken from "..923 registered Florida voters ."

    A poll made up of 100% Florida voters IS NOT going to tell you ANYTHING about what 95%of the country thinks about Tim Tebow. Big % love him 'cause he won the NC for the Gators .. big % 'hate him' 'cause he won a NC for the gators. BUT Florida does not mirror the rest of the 'real world.'

    Remember .. reading is fundamental!
    Man, you Tebow fans are desperate to be Martyrs.

    Don't forget that Florida voters includes Miami, FSU, UCF, and USF fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulldogDX55 View Post
    Man, you Tebow fans are desperate to be Martyrs.

    Don't forget that Florida voters includes Miami, FSU, UCF, and USF fans.
    I might agree with you somewhat but we don't know the demographic of the voters. Based on that and the fact we do know is only Florida voters then you have to discount the poll given what we do know. As far as we know it could have been a question asked only on the campus of Florida to students who are registered Dem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    I might agree with you somewhat but we don't know the demographic of the voters. Based on that and the fact we do know is only Florida voters then you have to discount the poll given what we do know. As far as we know it could have been a question asked only on the campus of Florida to students who are registered Dem.
    That's not how polling works, usually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulldogDX55 View Post
    That's not how polling works, usually.
    Well I was being facetious about the Florida students only being questioned but my point was the demographic could completely skew the results. Being a Florida residents only poll should definitely make anyone question the data presented as anything but a skewed poll.

    And I do know as a fact that polling on a college campus is done regularly. If that is what you were referring to as not usually done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulldogDX55 View Post
    Ok now post their records. Until he stops winning he deserves to still play. Does QBR account for rushing stats?

    Here I'll help you.

    Sam Bradford 18 wins 30 losses
    Chad Henne 18 wins 35 losses
    Geno Smith 11 wins 18 losses
    Mark Sanchez is actually respectable 41 wins 35 losses

    Also it's interesting that 3 of these QBs are Eagles now.
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    Usually ..

    Quote Originally Posted by BulldogDX55 View Post
    That's not how polling works, usually.
    All this poll can answer is "what less than 1000 random FLORIDA residents think of Tim Tebow." PERIOD

    Saying that liberals or conservatives or anybody besides this audience think .. doesn't translate.

    I do assessment and analysis. I write survey questions to get answers to determine utility. This poll is ONLY about Floridians attitudes.
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    Tebow's winning % is 9th best in the league btw. He's ahead of Drew Brees, Tony Romo, Cam Newton, Eli Manning, Matt Stafford and a whole bunch more. He wins games. Till he doesn't he deserves a spot in the NFL.

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    Exactly ..

    Quote Originally Posted by BulldogDX55 View Post
    Don't forget that Florida voters includes Miami, FSU, UCF, and USF fans.
    you proved my point. A much greater % of 'registered voters' in FLORIDA know 'who' Tim Tebow is and skews the poll. My issue is with citing the poll and methodology to say something that it doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    Tebow's winning % is 9th best in the league btw. He's ahead of Drew Brees, Tony Romo, Cam Newton, Eli Manning, Matt Stafford and a whole bunch more. He wins games. Till he doesn't he deserves a spot in the NFL.
    Putting Tim in the same sentence with these names in relation to "winning" is beyond absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Putting Tim in the same sentence with these names in relation to "winning" is beyond absurd.
    And yet he still has a higher winning percentage than them. You play to win the game. Herm Edwards taught us that one. Of the 63 QBs with atleast 10 starts in the NFL Tim Tebow has a higher winning percentage THAN 54 OF THEM!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Putting Tim in the same sentence with these names in relation to "winning" is beyond absurd.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    And yet he still has a higher winning percentage than them. You play to win the game. Herm Edwards taught us that one. Of the 63 QBs with atleast 10 starts in the NFL Tim Tebow has a higher winning percentage THAN 54 OF THEM!!
    Again, I bring up the Jordan Jefferson in 2011 example.

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