and there it is, Tigger is hurt...

[Dawg61]

Golf is a game.

George is getting angry

[thf24]

Tiger only needs to straighten out his driver and he'll be winning again. If you paid attention to how he played you'd see this. Fixing his tee game is the easiest of all corrections. They thought he'd struggle chipping it but he didn't and his putting is solid as normal. Irons also solid. He corrects his tee box and he'll be same ol Tiger again.

Tiger has never had an accurate driver though. Usually not as bad as he was this past weekend (I don't think he hit a fairway until 8 or 9 on Sunday), but he's always been distinctly below average in that aspect. He compensated before with length and excellent recovery shots. It was the miraculous recovery shots that had gone away after the incident and re-merged this past weekend with something nearing consistency. Work on driver accuracy would obviously help, but it's not like it's a part of his game that is suffering compared to his prime.

[Dawg61]

Tiger has never had an accurate driver though. Usually not as bad as he was this past weekend (I don't think he hit a fairway until 8 or 9 on Sunday), but he's always been distinctly below average in that aspect. He compensated before with length and excellent recovery shots. It was the miraculous recovery shots that had gone away after the incident and re-merged this past weekend with something nearing consistency. Work on driver accuracy would obviously help, but it's not like it's a part of his game that is suffering compared to his prime.

In 2002 Tiger hit 67.5% of fairways. So far in 2015 he's hit 51.2%. Because of his poor driving he's only hitting 59% of greens when he used to hit over 73%. His driving is way less accurate. He is averaging 309 yards a drive compared to 293 yards in 2002. He's hitting it farther it's just not straighter. Tiger is one club away from being back.

[thf24]

In 2002 Tiger hit 67.5% of fairways. So far in 2015 he's hit 51.2%. Because of his poor driving he's only hitting 59% of greens when he used to hit over 73%. His driving is way less accurate. He is averaging 309 yards a drive compared to 293 yards in 2002. He's hitting it farther it's just not straighter. Tiger is one club away from being back.

Yeah, I looked at the numbers myself and he wasn't as far off the average as I thought, and he has definitely fallen off in the past 5-6 years. Still, I feel like he's always tended to miss worse than most when he doesn't hit the fairway, and the recovery shots are a major strength of his game that are just now coming back.

[FISHDAWG]

no, I think Tiger is just losing his youthful strength, energy, recklessness, ect.... it happens to all athletes, even happened to Jack ... Jack won his last major at the age of 46 after competing on a very restricted schedule the last several years prior to that win ... the question is will Tiger fill the role of the past greats with class and dignity that the older generation has done ... to attain Jacks level of greatness requires more than just winning ....... I have yet to see that "class" from Tiger

[Schultzy]

Hitting a root hurts like hell but the pain goes away after a few minutes.

Also, afterwards he only seemed to be in pain on the bad shots he hit, not at all on the good ones.

[Dawg61]

Yeah, I looked at the numbers myself and he wasn't as far off the average as I thought, and he has definitely fallen off in the past 5-6 years. Still, I feel like he's always tended to miss worse than most when he doesn't hit the fairway, and the recovery shots are a major strength of his game that are just now coming back.

There's not enough rounds to judge correctly for Tiger in 2015. He's been hurt. 2014 is a wash. The last full year is 2013 and he finished #1 in the World rankings that year and #1 on the money list. His sand saves this year are way down though which gives credence to what you're saying. He isn't scrambling as well. To me that's just because he's been hurt and saving pars is a touch thing that can only be obtained by playing a lot. Tiger just needs to stay healthy, play a bunch and straighten out his driver. The mental part is an embarrassment issue imo. Tiger needs to embrace Evil Tiger and quit trying to lie to the world and himself. Be Evil Tiger.

[Dawg61]

Hitting a root hurts like hell but the pain goes away after a few minutes.

Also, afterwards he only seemed to be in pain on the bad shots he hit, not at all on the good ones.

Tiger is definitely a full grown baby. He's a spoiled brat. Only Serena Williams compares to him in this area. Evil Tiger will be back. Probably just needs to start slaying ***** again. Go on his version of the Sherman march. Slaying and destroying all ***** in his path. Evil Tiger will break Jack's record.

[Coach34]

There's not enough rounds to judge correctly for Tiger in 2015. He's been hurt. 2014 is a wash. The last full year is 2013 and he finished #1 in the World rankings that year and #1 on the money list. His sand saves this year are way down though which gives credence to what you're saying. He isn't scrambling as well. To me that's just because he's been hurt and saving pars is a touch thing that can only be obtained by playing a lot. Tiger just needs to stay healthy, play a bunch and straighten out his driver. The mental part is an embarrassment issue imo. Tiger needs to embrace Evil Tiger and quit trying to lie to the world and himself. Be Evil Tiger.

How many majors he win in 2013? Nobody gives a shit about a Firestone Invational victory

[Homedawg]

Tiger is definitely a full grown baby. He's a spoiled brat. Only Serena Williams compares to him in this area. Evil Tiger will be back. Probably just needs to start slaying ***** again. Go on his version of the Sherman march. Slaying and destroying all ***** in his path. Evil Tiger will break Jack's record.

To put it in perspective, to break jack's record, tiger has to win from now on, after his prime, as many majors as mickleson has won in his entire career. It's just not happening. Without the injuries and getting popped w the 9 iron, I think he would have gotten it w ease. But as it stands, it's going to be unbelievably hard. Jus don't see it. However, only a fool, would say it's impossible.

[Coach34]

To put it in perspective, to break jack's record, tiger has to win from now on, after his prime, as many majors as mickleson has won in his entire career. It's just not happening. Without the injuries and getting popped w the 9 iron, I think he would have gotten it w ease. But as it stands, it's going to be unbelievably hard. Jus don't see it. However, only a fool, would say it's impossible.

Tiger was a gamechanger for the Tour and it took 10 years for the him to get off the HGH and the others to buy into the weight training. Now you have the older guys phased out, the guys his age bought in to weight training, and the younger guys in pristine shape. That wasnt how golf was before Tiger. And that is why so many of them wilted under pressure for so many years. There really werent any great golfers when he came along- just a few very good ones. It's different now.

I think he can win a couple more. But he has to learn to do something he has never done before- come from behind.

[Churchill]

Tiger and "class" don`t belong in the same post. He just dropped several GD`s and an F-Bomb on the course at the damn MASTERS. Tiger is the Lance Armstrong of golf only without Armstrong`s class. Anyone who can`t see through him is one naive soul.

[Dawg61]

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Tiger was a gamechanger for the Tour and it took 10 years for the him to get off the HGH and the others to buy into the weight training. Now you have the older guys phased out, the guys his age bought in to weight training, and the younger guys in pristine shape. That wasnt how golf was before Tiger. And that is why so many of them wilted under pressure for so many years. There really werent any great golfers when he came along- just a few very good ones. It's different now.

I think he can win a couple more. But he has to learn to do something he has never done before- come from behind.

The HGH shit you're accusing him of is total bullshit. He's averaging 309 yards right now. In 2002 it was 293 yards. Tiger has only four majors to Jack. He's 38. Tiger will prepare every year for these majors specifically. That puts him at 50 being the cutoff any chance to win. That's 48 majors left to win 4. He'll get that done.

[Johnson85]

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The HGH shit you're accusing him of is total bullshit. He's averaging 309 yards right now. In 2002 it was 293 yards. Tiger has only four majors to Jack. He's 38. Tiger will prepare every year for these majors specifically. That puts him at 50 being the cutoff any chance to win. That's 48 majors left to win 4. He'll get that done.

Is tiger swing going to let him stay healthy enough to play consistently through 50? Seems unlikely as of now.

[Dawg61]

Is tiger swing going to let him stay healthy enough to play consistently through 50? Seems unlikely as of now.

Evil Tiger won't give a **** about any tree roots or injuries. He'll only care about breaking Jack's record. Once Tiger embraces Evil Tiger it's all over. Turn to the dark side Tiger.

[Coach34]

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The HGH shit you're accusing him of is total bullshit. He's averaging 309 yards right now. In 2002 it was 293 yards. Tiger has only four majors to Jack. He's 38. Tiger will prepare every year for these majors specifically. That puts him at 50 being the cutoff any chance to win. That's 48 majors left to win 4. He'll get that done.

he hasn't won a major since the PGA started testing for PED's. Probably just a coincidence tho. Oh, and there is that little thing about him being linked to an HGH Doctor. But we will just look past that also. And the fact he can't stay healthy now- another coincidence?

[FISHDAWG]

he hasn't won a major since the PGA started testing for PED's. Probably just a coincidence tho. Oh, and there is that little thing about him being linked to an HGH Doctor. But we will just look past that also. And the fact he can't stay healthy now- another coincidence?

give it up coach ... can't beat a man crush unless you're Spock

[Dawg61]

he hasn't won a major since the PGA started testing for PED's. Probably just a coincidence tho. Oh, and there is that little thing about him being linked to an HGH Doctor. But we will just look past that also. And the fact he can't stay healthy now- another coincidence?

They started testing in 2008. Tiger won the US Open in 2008. With a torn ACL.

[Homedawg]

They started testing in 2008. Tiger won the US Open in 2008. With a torn ACL.

Um no. They started testing in July of 2008. The open was in June. While he was probably clean he has never won a major while being tested. And missed too many to count. And I'm not anti tiger. Happen to like him and thought he would break the record. Just no longer think that's the case.

[sleepy dawg]

Yeah, no shit.... Where did all this HGH stuff come from?