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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    Please keep underestimating Coman and Bryant. Those two are going to be damn good. If we start 2 true freshmen at safety, we can kiss our season goodbye. One may start, and both may play, but they haven't done shit at the college level yet. It's a BIG jump from HS to the SEC, regardless of how talented you are. I know it's a different position, but look at Fournette: it took him half a season to adjust and he was the consensus #1 HS player in the nation. Peters and McLaurin are highly thought of, but not as highly as Fournette coming out of HS.
    If Bryant hasn't beaten out Evans, that scares me. Of course, it's probably Dan giving the upperclassman the right to start more than anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    Please keep underestimating Coman and Bryant. Those two are going to be damn good. If we start 2 true freshmen at safety, we can kiss our season goodbye. One may start, and both may play, but they haven't done shit at the college level yet. It's a BIG jump from HS to the SEC, regardless of how talented you are. I know it's a different position, but look at Fournette: it took him half a season to adjust and he was the consensus #1 HS player in the nation. Peters and McLaurin are highly thought of, but not as highly as Fournette coming out of HS.
    neither has Coman. He was beaten on a regular basis last year. Unless he makes a huge step forward, limit his time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach View Post
    neither has Coman. He was beaten on a regular basis last year. Unless he makes a huge step forward, limit his time.
    I don't know why Coman keeps getting lumped in with Evans. Coman played fine last year & he will be our best safety this year. Mark my words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    I don't know why Coman keeps getting lumped in with Evans. Coman played fine last year & he will be our best safety this year. Mark my words.
    Because he was burned a lot, or Evans wore his jersey..... A lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach View Post
    neither has Coman. He was beaten on a regular basis last year. Unless he makes a huge step forward, limit his time.
    I wouldn't say "regular basis." He got burned a few times last year, but who didn't? Like Dan says, he's not in the same league as Evans (who's just not an SEC player in terms of athleticism or smarts) and just needed time to get over his growing pains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    Please keep underestimating Coman and Bryant. Those two are going to be damn good. If we start 2 true freshmen at safety, we can kiss our season goodbye. One may start, and both may play, but they haven't done shit at the college level yet. It's a BIG jump from HS to the SEC, regardless of how talented you are. I know it's a different position, but look at Fournette: it took him half a season to adjust and he was the consensus #1 HS player in the nation. Peters and McLaurin are highly thought of, but not as highly as Fournette coming out of HS.
    Safety is one of the most difficult positions to start as a freshman. So much of that position is mental, I just think we will rely on the experienced kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach View Post
    Because he was burned a lot, or Evans wore his jersey..... A lot.
    You need to rewatch the games. He was not burned a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thf24 View Post
    I wouldn't say "regular basis." He got burned a few times last year, but who didn't? Like Dan says, he's not in the same league as Evans (who's just not an SEC player in terms of athleticism or smarts) and just needed time to get over his growing pains.
    Just 100% disagree. Watch the Orange bowl. Huge plays given up by him. Every game he was in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    You need to rewatch the games. He was not burned a lot.

    I have. Unless he is splitting time with a player wearing his number, he gets burned a lot. Maybe I have his number wrong.... 11 right.

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    It will take Peters half a season as well to make any kind of impact. And no- Coman was not burned alot. Having to come over and cover for someone else's ****-up is not "getting burned"
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    Lol... He got burned. And it was a lot. Out of position. It's fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog View Post
    Safety is one of the most difficult positions to start as a freshman. So much of that position is mental, I just think we will rely on the experienced kids.
    Not as tough as we've made it look the past 4 years. Nickoe did just great in Diaz's system the first go round as a rsFR that missed most of his trFR year with an ACL. Nevermind that it was a brand new scheme at the time. That said, we still gave up some big plays -- but what I saw with Diaz at La Tech shows that he's learned alot since then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach View Post
    I have. Unless he is splitting time with a player wearing his number, he gets burned a lot. Maybe I have his number wrong.... 11 right.
    He is 11 alright and Evans is 17. Coman did not get burned like you think. Even in the Orange Bowl, Calhoun got beat bad on a play (looked liked blown coverage though with Evans). Evans and Jackson did as well. But with Jackson there were scheme issues. I know Love gave up the first touchdown but it was ok coverage (would have been PI on the play anyway though). Is that some of what you are seeing though? Blown coverage is not the same as getting beat. And Coman did a try to cover other people's mistakes after the fact.

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    Jamal Adams, Tony Connor, Quin Blanding, Landon Collins, and Shaq Thompson all performed at high levels as true freshmen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    He is 11 alright and Evans is 17. Coman did not get burned like you think. Even in the Orange Bowl, Calhoun got beat bad on a play (looked liked blown coverage though with Evans). Evans and Jackson did as well. But with Jackson there were scheme issues. I know Love gave up the first touchdown but it was ok coverage (would have been PI on the play anyway though). Is that some of what you are seeing though? Blown coverage is not the same as getting beat. And Coman did a try to cover other people's mistakes after the fact.
    No, I'm seeing him blow his assignments. Sometimes people think he is cleaning up a play, when in fact he was late to his assignment. But, no need in arguing about it. I hope if he is the guy that he is the man back there. Would love to see it.

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    several of those you just listed were used more in the DOG Safety role for most of their snaps - i.e., they were within 7 yards of the LOS acting more as a roving LB who blitzed the outside edge or came in the middle as run support behind a blitzing LB. Not taking anything away from those guys, but that is what a lot of those players you mentioned did. Tony Connor was a GREAT run support safety his first two years, and covered the slot one-on-one, but rarely was seen in actual safety coverage. And there was many times where he was way out of position when he did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    He is 11 alright and Evans is 17. Coman did not get burned like you think. Even in the Orange Bowl, Calhoun got beat bad on a play (looked liked blown coverage though with Evans). Evans and Jackson did as well. But with Jackson there were scheme issues. I know Love gave up the first touchdown but it was ok coverage (would have been PI on the play anyway though). Is that some of what you are seeing though? Blown coverage is not the same as getting beat. And Coman did a try to cover other people's mistakes after the fact.
    our fans consistently blame the wrong guy in the secondary.

    Coman is going to be ok. Market will be good once he's back as long as he's fully recovered. Evans is going to help with depth too. We've actually got a lot of decent bodies to throw out there. We don't have a bonified all-SEC type guy unless Market becomes Josh Morgan, but we've got 4-6 kids that have the potential to play with 4 of them having solid experience and 2 of them having elite talent. We'll find a mix so long as injuries don't hit us back there like they did last year.

    DL depth is the only place for concern really... and FG kicking I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach View Post
    No, I'm seeing him blow his assignments. Sometimes people think he is cleaning up a play, when in fact he was late to his assignment. But, no need in arguing about it. I hope if he is the guy that he is the man back there. Would love to see it.
    Evans blew assignments and the schemes but the players in bad positions. But between the two you honestly think Coman was beat and blew more assignments than Evans or Jackson? Sorry that's just not how me and several others on here see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covercorner2 View Post
    Jamal Adams, Tony Connor, Quin Blanding, Landon Collins, and Shaq Thompson all performed at high levels as true freshmen...
    But not even all of these guys started as a true freshman, depending on the school. Collins was a bench roll player and special teams his whole freshman year. Adams was mid season before he got a start. Shaq Thompson was the nickle back and only if they came out to start the game in nickle did he start. I hope our guys come in a light the world on fire but it may be a little while.

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    If we can get just average safety play we will be fine. Just average, dont blow your assignment, come down and make a tackle or two. Dont have to be all sec or even good, just average. Anything beats last years safety play, not all on the players though, our DC quit on us or just flat out sucked

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