So you agree that barely making the NCAA Tournament was the new ceiling for the program, and you're ok with that?

As has been stated way more times than should have been necessary, getting rid of Stans is a different argument than hiring Ray. If you don't think Ray is the guy, fine. But that doesn't mean we should have kept Stans.

If you think we should have kept Stans, given what you just said, I'm not sure what to say. We certainly wouldn't accept that from any of our other athletic programs.

It's also funny, btw, that you think getting rid of Bost would have helped the off-court issues while also bringing in Gray and keeping Lewis.

And yes, 21 wins with the talent we had was a dumpster fire. I don't care if you're a 4 seed in the NIT with ridiculous talent or a 13-win team with no talent. They're both embarrassing, unacceptable, and not enjoyable.