Quote Originally Posted by 1bigdawg View Post
It is on Ray; he recruited these guys. If they did not have the fundamentals and basketball IQ then he knew or should have known that when he signed them and adapted his coaching strategy accordingly. If he can't adapt, he should sign different players. He has done neither. It is on him.
My point is that is his recruiting area, there aren't many guys with D1 athleticism and fundamentals or basketball IQ. We aren't going to be able to pull a lot of midwestern kids to Starkville. There is a reason beyond coaching that TN, AL, AU, LSU, MSU, OM, ARK struggle to have any consistent success. The ones that can recruit at a high level (Stans, Pearl for example) can make you competitive but we all knows stans record of tourney success.

To illustrate this - go look at Bama's recruiting over the past 5 years. They should be good. So is it Grant or are the players just so fundamentally flawed that it's too much to overcome consistently? Grant did much better with players not quite as athletic but with better fundamentals when he was at VCU.