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Originally Posted by
DudyDawg
I'm saying it is caused by the collapse of the program, not us trying to follow recruiting "rules". I'm all for renaming the Hump the Newman center tomorrow if it would get him. The problem isn't cheating on the recruiting trail. It was within
We weren't collapsed as a program when Ray first got here. Heck, six weeks before Stans was let go we were ranked in the Top 20 and even with the bad finish we barely missed the NCAAs and landed in the NIT as a high enough seed to get a home game. So yes, before Stans left we had some internal issues, but we were FAR from a collapsed program that would deter all recruits. I ASSUMED we were recruiting so poorly because of the combination of Ray not having any recruiting ties in the area and trying to do things the "right way" as Strickland probably wanted him to in the name of "cleaning up the program". The collapse was self-inflicted by not recruiting and developing, not the other way around. I'm not sure that Ware, Thomas and Sword weren't every bit as good on the basketball court the day they started freshman classes at MSU as they are today. They really haven't developed under this staff and we've failed to put much around them. I will add that RJohnson has improved but he is a Stans guy as well.
Last edited by maroonmania; 01-20-2015 at 07:51 PM.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
The problem is that many of the benefits, like jobs, are contingent on the player signing. I doubt most schools are just filling out cash before a recruit signs.
OM pays guys big money just to visit. Then they unleash the females.
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Originally Posted by
Maroonthirteen
We don't need any part of getting in the mud with auburn and Old Mrs. Did y'all not learn from dealing with Newton and Devinner?
Let me remind yall, Newton was bought by auburn and the public perception was that we tried to buy him.
Devinner placed numerous kids at OM. One I know received a nice dodge charger. We sign a Devinner player.... Msu and the player gets bent over by the NCAA.
Its obvious to me that we don't have the political clout, connections....whatever to play the game and get away with it. So no thanks. Stay out of it.
Sadly, this is spot on.
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
We weren't collapsed as a program when Ray first got here. Heck, six weeks before Stans was let go we were ranked in the Top 20 and even with the bad finish we barely missed the NCAAs and landed in the NIT as a high enough seed to get a home game. So yes, before Stans left we had some internal issues, but we were FAR from a collapsed program that would deter all recruits. I ASSUMED we were recruiting so poorly because of the combination of Ray not have any recruiting ties in the area and trying to do things the "right way" as Strickland probably wanted him to in the name of "cleaning up the program". The collapse was self-inflicted by not recruiting and developing, not the other way around. I'm not sure that Ware, Thomas and Sword weren't every bit as good on the basketball court the day they started freshman classes at MSU as they are today. They really haven't developed under this staff and we've failed to put much around them. I will add that RJohnson has improved but he is a Stans guy as well.
Excellent post
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I've seen this movie so many times before...
AU is turning up the heat, my friends... (again)....
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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I imagine UM is a complete amateur when compared to Auburn.
We are just inept and/or sackless I would assume.
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Originally Posted by
thf24
What I wonder is what will happen when more recruits start to realize they can take big money from a school and then not go there without said school being able to do shit about it.
Then they can play the Steve Miller Band song, "Take the Money and Run."
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Originally Posted by
Maroonthirteen
We don't need any part of getting in the mud with auburn and Old Mrs. Did y'all not learn from dealing with Newton and Devinner?
Let me remind yall, Newton was bought by auburn and the public perception was that we tried to buy him.
Devinner placed numerous kids at OM. One I know received a nice dodge charger. We sign a Devinner player.... Msu and the player gets bent over by the NCAA.
Its obvious to me that we don't have the political clout, connections....whatever to play the game and get away with it. So no thanks. Stay out of it.
Ole Miss has been playing the game since the Johnny Vaught era
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That's the thing- this has been going on since the 40's and 50's. Scholly limits just upped the ante on top guys
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
defiantdog
You'd think Bracky would turn his head to some things. I mean hell, the guy got his undergrad and masters from State..... you'd think he'd show some compassion.
I agree, but I imagine he is just doing what he is told to do.
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A current South Carolina coach , not the OBC, said the worse 2 schools in the SEC are AU and OM in that order...
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Well, Bear Bryant was openly said " It ain't cheating, if you don't get caught "
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Originally Posted by
ScottH
I imagine UM is a complete amateur when compared to Auburn.
We are just inept and/or sackless I would assume.
Too many years at doing it for Ole Miss, with their lawyer based recruiting machine, to be an amateur. I would say Auburn is the most sleazy, but OM is not far behind.
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Originally Posted by
MabenMaroon
Well, Bear Bryant was openly said " It ain't cheating, if you don't get caught "
not to be picky, but I think the quote was "if you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'".
somebody in NASCAR ripped it off....
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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Originally Posted by
mic
A current South Carolina coach , not the OBC, said the worse 2 schools in the SEC are AU and OM in that order...
Mississippi was recently named the most corrupt state in the union. How many olemiss judges and lawyers have been busted in the last few years led by ol Dickie? Shady and entitled is a scary combination. It is a wonder State has a football program with those snakes running the state.
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"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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Originally Posted by
TUSK
MCready mentioned Jefferson yesterday as being one of the big timers that olemiss feels good about. I always say that there is so much bullshit surrounding olemiss that you can't figure out what is really going on with them. Logic says they don't get Jefferson, but the same could be said about tunsil and many others.
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