Texas Commit Flips to Auburn After Visit & Photos Come Out

[TheRef]

So former Texas commit Tim Irvin, a 4-star safety from Florida, announced that he was flipping his commitment to Auburn. He said that he was "comfortable" on Auburn's campus. Well I think we figured out WHY he was so comfortable on Auburn's campus. Reportedly, he sent out a Snapchat story that shows him holding a fairly large amount of cash with the caption "Money baby" after visiting with Auburn. Something seems sketchy here, fellas.

[Leroy Jenkins]

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[msstate7]

What would OM say? That's just 4 20s. The rest are 1's. He was buying a plane/train ticket*

[Coach34]

That is today's recruiting and why we have lost some kids. Money talks

[Leroy Jenkins]

I mean they do get per diem for their OV trip expenses, right ?

[starkvegasdawg]

I mean they do get per diem for their OV trip expenses, right ?

Some more than others. Per Diem can range from a coke out of the machine to a duffel bag in the back seat of a brand new Dodge Charger.

[West Houston Dog]

have previously heard from a coaching friend of mine the program with the shadiest recruiting he had encountered was AUBURN.....

[AlSwearengen]

I was listening to McReady on the radio yesterday and he was rattling off all of these top players they have visiting and that they feel good about. Then he started talking about 2016. I won't kick the dead horse that is the mystery of why oxford and olemiss' are attractive to a 5* black kid from florida or illinois, but damn. College football has almost evolved into out in the open free agency.

[ShotgunDawg]

NEWS FLASH

THE JOKE IS ON US!

This exact thing is going on in Mississippi right now, and recruits that want to play at MSU are being bought out from underneath us.

The problem is that this has been going on for years, and we have done nothing to counter it.

There is no authority in college football, so the joke is on us for not participating at the same level as other places.

How much do we want to win, and how committed are we?

It's a punch to the gut when you realize how it works, but it is what it is. You either care or you don't.

[Johnson85]

NEWS FLASH

THE JOKE IS ON US!

This exact thing is going on in Mississippi right now, and recruits that want to play at MSU are being bought out from underneath us.

The problem is that this has been going on for years, and we have done nothing to counter it.

There is nothing to be done to counter it. Everybody in the SEC plays the game their own way. We may not be out there offering backpacks of cash, but nobody in the SEC is filling out their recruiting classes without being competitive in recruiting. I for one am pretty convinced that trying to outbid everyone is not the way to go. Maybe if things evolve that is what we will have to do, but right now it's still a pretty hit or miss approach, and I think our current approach is going to keep us much more steady from year to year.

[Irondawg]

which is why I think it should evolve into a pay for play situation, but with very strict rules around what happens if you get caught paying more or paying recruits. You can't stop all of it, but once you make an example out of someone it will at least make folks more cautious and discreet.

especially if you could get the P5 behind it.

[ShotgunDawg]

There is nothing to be done to counter it. Everybody in the SEC plays the game their own way. We may not be out there offering backpacks of cash, but nobody in the SEC is filling out their recruiting classes without being competitive in recruiting. I for one am pretty convinced that trying to outbid everyone is not the way to go. Maybe if things evolve that is what we will have to do, but right now it's still a pretty hit or miss approach, and I think our current approach is going to keep us much more steady from year to year.

Outbidding everyone is working for Ole Miss, and no one is trying to stop them.

[TheRef]

Outbidding everyone is working for Ole Miss, and no one is trying to stop them.

Because they know Ole Miss won't be able to win with the recruits that they're buying...

[EAVdog]

If they get this early recruiting period going it will benefit us greatly.

No doubt our players get some benefits, at least I hope they do, but we aren't ponying up to flip a commit from Texas/UGA/Oklahoma etc... to us on their OV. People can gripe about Mullen pushing kids to not take their OV's but there are Thousands of reasons not to!

I mean there is no way a Dodge Charger is such a popular choice of vehicle for all these 4 & 5 star players Bama and Auburn sign.

[HSVDawg]

There is nothing to be done to counter it. Everybody in the SEC plays the game their own way. We may not be out there offering backpacks of cash, but nobody in the SEC is filling out their recruiting classes without being competitive in recruiting. I for one am pretty convinced that trying to outbid everyone is not the way to go. Maybe if things evolve that is what we will have to do, but right now it's still a pretty hit or miss approach, and I think our current approach is going to keep us much more steady from year to year.

Exactly. Its the job of the "network" to do what is necessary to make the decision not about money, and let the coaches handle the rest. Maybe for one or two big targets you go all out, but trying to outbid everyone on every player never works out, especially for a school like MSU.

I think the biggest thing is getting everyone on the same page as to who those top couple of prospects are in the eyes of the coaching staff. If you asked everyone on this board who the most critical recruit is for us to land this cycle, most would say Leo Lewis, Peters, Javon Patterson, etc. just based on recruiting rankings. But the coaches may see it differently and may have other opinions on who these "can't miss" prospects are. They may not want that 3-star with high upside from a 1A school to slip off to Ole Miss in favor of the 5-star stud who may have grade issues, character issues, or already maxed out in terms of his development.

[EAVdog]

Because they know Ole Miss won't be able to win with the recruits that they're buying...

I have a hunch Ole Miss is going to lose some big fish this year. Other programs are not going to be outdone this time around.

[thf24]

What I wonder is what will happen when more recruits start to realize they can take big money from a school and then not go there without said school being able to do shit about it.

[Irondawg]

What I wonder is what will happen when more recruits start to realize they can take big money from a school and then not go there without said school being able to do shit about it.

That's what I would do - I'd visit everywhere and then just go where i wanted with lots of spending cash

[ShotgunDawg]

What I wonder is what will happen when more recruits start to realize they can take big money from a school and then not go there without said school being able to do shit about it.

The problem is that many of the benefits, like jobs, are contingent on the player signing. I doubt most schools are just filling out cash before a recruit signs.

[thf24]

The problem is that many of the benefits, like jobs, are contingent on the player signing. I doubt most schools are just filling out cash before a recruit signs.

True. I suppose I'm mainly talking about situations like what this appears to be and the various OM incidents where recruits are revealed to have large amounts of cash/benefits in hand prior to signing day.