What I'm hearing about the DC situation makes alot of sense now...

[CadaverDawg]

Yea but at LSU he's not a DC candidate it's for DL Coach. If that's a decision you have to agonize over I don't mind moving on IF that's the case.

True

[Big4Dawg]

I'm will Mullen. If your guy is waffling or isnt 100% sure he wants to be there- move on to someone that does

You mean the guy that already left and told us he didn't want to be here? You can't say that him leaving the first time is a "business decision" but when O does the same thing, but say its a sign of no-loyalty and that he didn't buy 100% into what we are trying to sell.

[CadaverDawg]

You mean the guy that already left and told us he didn't want to be here? You can't say that him leaving the first time is a "business decision" but when O does the same thing, but say its a sign of no-loyalty and that he didn't buy 100% into what we are trying to sell.

Good point

[Really Clark?]

Let's not forget, the LSU deal may be several more days before its done. You want to wait on them for the chance to get O? People are ready for us to name a guy now. At some point it sounds like a second pitch was made but O had to have a time limit. We wait and still don't get him, man Dan would have got hammered for that as well.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

No matter what happens somebody won't like it & somebody will be upset.

[CadaverDawg]

Let's not forget, the LSU deal may be several more days before its done. You want to wait on them for the chance to get O? People are ready for us to name a guy now. At some point it sounds like a second pitch was made but O had to have a time limit. We wait and still don't get him, man Dan would have got hammered for that as well.

Yea, as long as Mullen made a second attempt or put a time limit, I'm cool with it. We'll never know, but it wouldn't totally shock me if as soon as Mullen heard O was speaking with LSU, Dan said "F that" and called Manny to offer the job.

[Coach34]

You mean the guy that already left and told us he didn't want to be here? You can't say that him leaving the first time is a "business decision" but when O does the same thing, but say its a sign of no-loyalty and that he didn't buy 100% into what we are trying to sell.

Manny got a 110% raise to leave State

O was waffling over a lesser job and less money

Thats a big difference to me

[basedog]

Damn, if I was making $240 million a year and someone says "come work for me I will pay you $750 million" and you can move from Starkville to Austin you wouldn't go because your loyal? Bullcrap!

[CadaverDawg]

No matter what happens somebody won't like it & somebody will be upset.

Yep. I'm totally fine with Manny or O....I just hope Dan's ego didn't keep us from getting the guy he thought was the better fit. But either way, we will be fine defensively.

[Really Clark?]

You mean the guy that already left and told us he didn't want to be here? You can't say that him leaving the first time is a "business decision" but when O does the same thing, but say its a sign of no-loyalty and that he didn't buy 100% into what we are trying to sell.

O has never been here and is trying for a DC but is playing the middle for a DL job at a bigger program. Different scenarios altogether.

[Big4Dawg]

Well, many here have said we wanted someone that wants to be at MSU awhile and not just 1 and done. O wavering over a DL job at LSU shows he wasnt interested in being here for the long haul. I think Mullen handled it the way he should have.

I can't believe this thread. You realize that Diaz ALREADY was 1 and done and already PROVED he didn't want to be at MSU? Yes, he doubled his salary in the process, I get that.

But when O does it, we say "he wasn't interested in being here for the long haul". If what everyone is saying is true about $$$, sounds like he would have made more money at LSU as DL coach than here as DC. But yet, we fault O for giving a couple days to think about it?

[CadaverDawg]

Damn, if I was making $240 million a year and someone says "come work for me I will pay you $750 million" and you can move from Starkville to Austin you wouldn't go because your loyal? Bullcrap!

Ha, you mean 240k to 750k? I hope we aren't over paying that much for a DC! Haha

[Big4Dawg]

Manny got a 110% raise to leave State

O was waffling over a lesser job and less money

Thats a big difference to me

If the money part is true, and I find that hard to believe, than it probably has to do with his family already being in LA. Hard to fault him for that.

[Really Clark?]

Yea, as long as Mullen made a second attempt or put a time limit, I'm cool with it. We'll never know, but it wouldn't totally shock me if as soon as Mullen heard O was speaking with LSU, Dan said "F that" and called Manny to offer the job.

I really doubt that. He has didn't do that with Collins last year and got him a good raise. As always let his coaches leave only when they have secured another job. He has always shown to be very fair to other coaches in the hiring and firing aspect.

[Dawg496]

LSU would likely pay O just as much to coach DL as we would to be our DC.

Mullen has to learn to not let his ego get in the way of making business decisions. If O was #1 that's who he should hire. Just because O was weighing his options doesn't mean we should tell him to **** off. No matter how much Stricklin and Mullen preach it, we are not lateral to Florida or LSU. Not right now.

[CadaverDawg]

Well, one thing is for sure....The life expectancy of a MSU DC is not very long if you don't perform, and not only that, but the fan base will not be fully unified and ecstatic about Diaz right off the bat. Therefore, he will have plenty of pressure on him to perform at a high level immediately. Not to mention he will have a roster loaded with talent. I like that combination.

I think Manny will do a great job, and I am in full support of him if he is named DC. Hopefully everyone will be.

[Dawg61]

O waffling forces Mullen to look at Diaz closer and when you look at Diaz closer he appears to be the better hire. Happened to most of us too. At first I wanted O but then after looking at Diaz's rankings at LTech and that he knows how we work already and that the best part of O is his name and recruiting I think it quickly leans in Diaz favor as the better hire. Still want both though.

[Really Clark?]

Good points Cadaver

[CadaverDawg]

O waffling forces Mullen to look at Diaz closer and when you look at Diaz closer he appears to be the better hire. Happened to most of us too. At first I wanted O but then after looking at Diaz's rankings at LTech and that he knows how we work already and that the best part of O is his name and recruiting I think it quickly leans in Diaz favor as the better hire. Still want both though.

I definitely warmed up to the Diaz hire when I looked at what happened after Texas. He seems to do well with players that are willing to put in the work.

[Dawg61]

I definitely warmed up to the Diaz hire when I looked at what happened after Texas. He seems to do well with players that are willing to put in the work.

Being ranked #1 in interceptions, #2 in TFL, #5 in turnover margin and #16 in sacks cured my doubts.