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Originally Posted by
engie
Womack has 25 years as a defensive coordinator all over major college football. Nothing at all like Orgeron. Wommack is FAR more comparable to Joe Lee Dunn than to Orgeron. Elite schemer -- not a recruiter. And let's not pretend his first couple of defenses there had elite talent. He started a bunch of Nutt freshmen and knocked our dicks in the dirt his first year on the job...
Joe Lee wasn't an elite schemer we ran 5-7 plays regardless of whom we played. It was the talent and the inability of teams to single block DL that caused confusion. Once teams were able to single block the DL they maxed protected with RB'S blocking blitzing LB'S and dog safeties leaving average corners one on one. As the talent level with DL decreased so went his defense. Ask me how i know....So if Orgeron can bring in talent and put that talent in a decent predicament the defense will be fine .
Last edited by bulldawg28; 12-25-2014 at 12:05 AM.
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If I am not mistaken Orgeron gave up the DC play calling duties to John Thompson by his final year there FWIW.
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If O is hired, I will be the LB coach/DC. I have been playing Madden since 98, so that's 16 years of experience. I bring the house every play. Psycho defense will be renamed YOLO defense in JLD's honor.
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My only question with O is, how long would he be here? One year or so? I don't see us being his long term plan. I actually went to the same High School in Arkansas as O's wife, although she is about 4 years older than me. Maybe O is just ready to be in coaching again?
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Originally Posted by
IMissJack
My only question with O is, how long would he be here? One year or so? I don't see us being his long term plan. I actually went to the same High School in Arkansas as O's wife, although she is about 4 years older than me. Maybe O is just ready to be in coaching again?
If we get 2 years out of him it will be the norm for us. None of the DC we have hired have viewed us a long term plan.
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Originally Posted by
Dawgface
If we get 2 years out of him it will be the norm for us. None of the DC we have hired have viewed us a long term plan.
And I'm ok with that if these guys are getting promoted. Now eventually we want to get to the point where they are taking HC jobs and not more high profile DC jobs. But Manny went to UT and Collins went to UF. Both were upgrades at their job which means we were doing something right on the field. Also add that Gonzales got an interview for the CSU HC job.
Good programs have turnover at their coaching positions because they are successful on the field. Turnover right now sucks because we are at a more fragile point in the building of our program. But in a couple years we hopefully have the infrastructure where we are a destination program and the loss of a coordinator doesn't mean we have to go find one. It means we get to choose who we want to be part of our program.
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Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
Good programs have turnover at their coaching positions because they are successful on the field. Turnover right now sucks because we are at a more fragile point in the building of our program. But in a couple years we hopefully have the infrastructure where we are a destination program and the loss of a coordinator doesn't mean we have to go find one. It means we get to choose who we want to be part of our program.
Great point. A necessary step is becoming a great program is having your coaching staff poached. There are only handful - 5, maybe 10, programs that can poach our coaches. But its gonna happen. Sooner than later, maybe even right now, we are a place where talented coaches want to coach either as a destination or a stepping stone to the rare instances where a Florida, Texas, or Alabama has an opening.
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Pendergast got his 'start' at Miss'ippi State ...

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Forget about Clark from UAB. Bring Pendergast in let's cause some serious havoc in the SEC.
He was a graduate assistant or assistant coach at Mississippi State, University of Southern California, University of Oklahoma, and University of Alabama at Birmingham before joining the Houston Oilers in 1995.
Coach34 .. "We're not hiring the ****ing Pirate at Miss State. GTFO"

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