Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
absolutely and anyone who disagrees is in denial.
Yea, I agree. People who still try to argue that stars don't mean anything will just never be convinced, because the evidence that is out there is pretty clear....not only are 4 and 5 star players drafted at a much, much higher rate every single year, but the vast majority of the perennial top 10 teams recruit at a very high level.

Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
one big difference between a bama 4 star and a MSU 4 star is that Bama gets commitments from kids that are already 4 stars. Where a lot of our 4 stars get their ranking after our site guy gives them a bump.
What site does this happen on? I have always primarily followed Scout, and there definitely hasn't been 'a lot' of players that have gotten bumped up to 4 stars after committing to us.....Champion this year, Aries Williams last year, and Chris Jones doesn't really count since he was clearly a guy that just slipped through the cracks. Now if you are saying that Bama gets a lot more of the clear cut 4 star guys (the top 150ish recruits) while more of ours are guys that just barely make the cut, then I can agree with that.....but this is the first time I have ever heard someone say that recruits get a bump after committing to us.