Rick Ray gets a 4-star commit tonight

[Coach34]

Simonds a 4* SG from Georgia

He aint going anywhere anytime soon folks

[Jacksondevildog]

Really big pickup. Kid has some big boy offers.

[codeDawg]

Awesome!

[SDDawg]

I know that people expect a lot from Ray this year, and I understand it. He needs to move the program forward, but remember where we're coming from and what we're building. Unless we have another 13 win season and unless Malik signs with Ole Miss we need to give Ray an opportunity to keep building his program, I think he'll move it forward this season.

[Coach34]

Ray is going to get a 4th unless we finish last in the SEC- and I dont see us finishing last in the SEC. Get on board and support the guy this year. I dont understand why people wont do that

[CadaverDawg]

Ray is going to get a 4th unless we finish last in the SEC- and I dont see us finishing last in the SEC. Get on board and support the guy this year. I dont understand why people wont do that

People are supporting the guy. Not sure where people get that they aren't. A few knuckleheads on a message board does not define the fan base of MSU. If we have a decent team, people will support in attendance.....if we have a shitty team, people will support from their couches. It's that simple, and has nothing to do with Ray.

[msstate7]

People are supporting the guy. Not sure where people get that they aren't. A few knuckleheads on a message board does not define the fan base of MSU. If we have a decent team, people will support in attendance.....if we have a shitty team, people will support from their couches. It's that simple, and has nothing to do with Ray.

We're 2-0 with Utah state in town Saturday. Lets fill the hump for this game

[CadaverDawg]

We're 2-0 with Utah state in town Saturday. Lets fill the hump for this game

I'd say it's possible with the football team playing....but gun season starts Saturday, and that always hurts attendance a bit.

[Coach34]

People are supporting the guy. Not sure where people get that they aren't. A few knuckleheads on a message board does not define the fan base of MSU. If we have a decent team, people will support in attendance.....if we have a shitty team, people will support from their couches. It's that simple, and has nothing to do with Ray.

lack of butts in the seat tells me different

[CadaverDawg]

lack of butts in the seat tells me different

That comes with winning. Our fans got used to winning, so to expect them to sit through the shit show the last few years is not really being realistic. I know it would help to have a packed house, but that isn't realistic until we put a better product on the court. I think the crowds will pick up this season if we play well in the Non Con. Mf or the first time since Ray started,we actually have a team that many feel can compete a little. That makes a difference. Why would I drive 2.5 hours on a Wednesday night to watch a sure beat down, and then have to drive home and go to work the next day?

This year will be different....next year could be even better. And if he keeps recruiting well, we could be back to sell outs by 2016-17

[Percho]

what time is the bb game?

[Jacksondevildog]

what time is the bb game?

Noon

[Dawg61]

That comes with winning. Our fans got used to winning, so to expect them to sit through the shit show the last few years is not really being realistic. I know it would help to have a packed house, but that isn't realistic until we put a better product on the court. I think the crowds will pick up this season if we play well in the Non Con. Mf or the first time since Ray started,we actually have a team that many feel can compete a little. That makes a difference. Why would I drive 2.5 hours on a Wednesday night to watch a sure beat down, and then have to drive home and go to work the next day?

This year will be different....next year could be even better. And if he keeps recruiting well, we could be back to sell outs by 2016-17

This!!! Give us something to be excited about. Beat a good team. Start out 10-0. Do something!! Blow bullshit teams out by 50!! Valley was HORRENDOUS!! They didn't have a single player over 6'4 worth a shit. It was a layup drill for us. We should of defu@king destroyed them!! I'm not going to blow my wad over a 4* for next year. Wanna see excited? Wanna see a packed house again? SIGN MALIK NEWMAN!!

[Barking 13]

Mullen got 6 years.. just sayin'

[Dawg61]

Mullen got 6 years.. just sayin'

Mullen had us in a bowl game year 2 and he was 1st and goal on the 2 from beating LSU and having us in a bowl HIS FIRST SEASON!! Don't compare Ray to Mullen. Ever.

[Barking 13]

Mullen had us in a bowl game year 2 and he was 1st and goal on the 2 from beating LSU and having us in a bowl HIS FIRST SEASON!! Don't compare Ray to Mullen. Ever.

easy bro... I forgot the *** lol

[Dawg61]

easy bro... I forgot the *** lol

Haha my bad

[engie]

This!!! Give us something to be excited about. Beat a good team. Start out 10-0. Do something!! Blow bullshit teams out by 50!! Valley was HORRENDOUS!! They didn't have a single player over 6'4 worth a shit. It was a layup drill for us. We should of defu@king destroyed them!! I'm not going to blow my wad over a 4* for next year. Wanna see excited? Wanna see a packed house again? SIGN MALIK NEWMAN!!

So you want us to do something you told us there was 100% NO WAY was going to happen. Blew up a dozen threads and basically destroyed the board about it to the extent that Newman couldn't even be discussed on any level whatsoever for a number of months. What gives?

Don't pull "show me something" now after you've been off the deep end about Ray basically since the inception of this board. That approach from Cadaver is fair because it's consistent with his long-term viewpoint, and while falling a bit on the pessimistic side, has never consistently been unreasonable. You owe the board an apology before you get to go "wait and see" or "show me something" after the destruction you've wrung toward people asking you to do that from the beginning. Quietly backtracking from the hard-line position you've taken about Ray both as a coach and recruiter that has played a huge role in making basketball an almost completely undiscussable topic on this board for 2 years now isn't going to work. Just own the fact that you just might have jumped the gun, and the rest of us will let it go.

Ray's last 2 commitments have been 4*s. The next 2 will most likely be another 4* and then we've got a great chance at a high 5*. And all of the guys seem to fit our system and personality as a team. Recruiting wheels are spinning up pretty well now. The path toward Ray having success here is looking more and more clear and more and more probable.

[Dawg61]

So you want us to do something you told us there was 100% NO WAY was going to happen. Blew up a dozen threads and basically destroyed the board about it to the extent that Newman couldn't even be discussed on any level whatsoever for a number of months. What gives?

Don't pull "show me something" now after you've been off the deep end about Ray basically since the inception of this board. That approach from Cadaver is fair because it's consistent with his long-term viewpoint, and while falling a bit on the pessimistic side, has never consistently been unreasonable. You owe the board an apology before you get to go "wait and see" or "show me something" after the destruction you've wrung toward people asking you to do that from the beginning. Quietly backtracking from the hard-line position you've taken about Ray both as a coach and recruiter that has played a huge role in making basketball an almost completely undiscussable topic on this board for 2 years now isn't going to work. Just own the fact that you just might have jumped the gun, and the rest of us will let it go.

Ray's last 2 commitments have been 4*s. The next 2 will most likely be another 4* and then we've got a great chance at a high 5*. And all of the guys seem to fit our system and personality as a team. Recruiting wheels are spinning up pretty well now. The path toward Ray having success here is looking more and more clear and more and more probable.

Lay off the scotch bro. At no point in my previous post did I say we've turned a corner or am I backing off my stance on our basketball team. We are awful. We don't have a fu@king POINT GUARD OR ANYBODY THAT CAN MAKE 3's!!! We are a team full of 3's and 4's. That's going to be real ugly real quick. If you're putting your eggs of hope in Sword and Ready you're in for a nightmare wake up call coming in one month. We are a damn steaming pile of mess. We had 26 turnovers vs VALLEY!! Butler has 26 turnovers in 6 games. At least in year 1-2 we could lay blame on zero bench. Now we have to face terrible straight in the face. There's no getting by it this year. You'll see it soon. It's so obvious and yet you still can't see it. You really shouldn't post about basketball. You're highly intelligent in many other facets of life but watching a basketball team and being able to identify wether it's good basketball or bad is not one of them.

[msstate7]

Lay off the scotch bro. At no point in my previous post did I say we've turned a corner or am I backing off my stance on our basketball team. We are awful. We don't have a fu@king POINT GUARD OR ANYBODY THAT CAN MAKE 3's!!! We are a team full of 3's and 4's. That's going to be real ugly real quick. If you're putting your eggs of hope in Sword and Ready you're in for a nightmare wake up call coming in one month. We are a damn steaming pile of mess. We had 26 turnovers vs VALLEY!! Butler has 26 turnovers in 6 games. At least in year 1-2 we could lay blame on zero bench. Now we have to face terrible straight in the face. There's no getting by it this year. You'll see it soon. It's so obvious and yet you still can't see it. You really shouldn't post about basketball. You're highly intelligent in many other facets of life but watching a basketball team and being able to identify wether it's good basketball or bad is not one of them.

I'm not justifying the TO's by no means, but didn't we only have 7 at halftime? We're also playing without 2 of our primary ball handlers. Oh and valley forced 19 turnovers against Indiana.