another croom artcile where he attempts to lay claim for our current success..

[tcdog70]

I couldn't Stand Sly then and really can't believe the Number of State Fans that are still drinking the Kool-aid . He is the worst coach to ever Coach at State, hell give me Charlie Shira. I'm right there on board with Coach 34 on the Slytanic. oh Yea, he ruined Omarr.

[War Machine Dawg]

Saw this a day or two ago. Didn't bother linking because it's garbage. Crxxm is so irrelevant he isn't worth wasting our time discussing. He can cheer for us all he wants, but it doesn't change the fact he's arguably the worst HC in MSU history. And there is literally no one on this team that was recruited by him. Just a typical Alabama journalist trying to stir shit and insert race into something where it has no place. Screw Crxxm.

[Todd4State]

I think a lot of things that we are seeing with Dan is what Croom wanted and envisioned, but he couldn't implement them. And thus, he was fired.

The thing I like the best about Dan is he appears to be very detail oriented from a fundamentals standpoint, and overall he has done a good job with recruiting players that work hard and seem to be good people. And I think that's a lot of what killed Croom. It's one thing to talk it, but you have to walk it. And that's not easy- and Dan really should be commended for what he has done in that respect, which I think gets overlooked a lot.

I also think he didn't get Mississippi and that hurt him a lot too. Instead of recruiting Alabama so hard, he probably should have done what Dan is doing now- focus on Mississippi guys and try to beat the bushes for the Benardrick McKinney's and Chris Jones's. I don't think he fully understood the Egg Bowl rivalry either- see 45-0. We never had the focus and intensity that we should have had for that game other than maybe 2005 when Norwood carried us to a win.

[Dawg61]

Y'all failed to mention the worst part about Croom imo. He intentionally put MSU down so that he could extend his contract longer. He repeatedly said how awful the program was and that it would take 6-8 years to right the ship and that MSU could never compete regularly with the LSU and Bama's of the world. He purposely lowered the bar so low just so he could keep getting a fat paycheck. Fu@k Croom. That gigantic turd tried to turn MSU into a retarded Bama Lite. He copied everything Bama except the most important part. Winning. Remember how decked up he got and stood on the sidelines soaking up Bama's stadium his last time coaching there. He cared about himself and trying to audition for Bama. That is all he cared about. Then he had the nerve to call race into his firing as a decision. Gonna go puke now.

[mstatefan91]

Seriously, WTF guys?! We are f*ckin #1 in the GD country with an SEC road game and you are all having hissy fits over a coach's comments who hasn't been here for 6 years?! F*cking really?!

I may or may not be drinking tonight....

[War Machine Dawg]

Y'all failed to mention the worst part about Croom imo. He intentionally put MSU down so that he could extend his contract longer. He repeatedly said how awful the program was and that it would take 6-8 years to right the ship and that MSU could never compete regularly with the LSU and Bama's of the world. He purposely lowered the bar so low just so he could keep getting a fat paycheck. Fu@k Croom. That gigantic turd tried to turn MSU into a retarded Bama Lite. He copied everything Bama except the most important part. Winning. Remember how decked up he got and stood on the sidelines soaking up Bama's stadium his last time coaching there. He cared about himself and trying to audition for Bama. That is all he cared about. Then he had the nerve to call race into his firing as a decision. Gonna go puke now.

I've never seen a coach who was so openly antagonistic/hostile towards his fan base as Crxxm was toward us.

[War Machine Dawg]

I think a lot of things that we are seeing with Dan is what Croom wanted and envisioned, but he couldn't implement them. And thus, he was fired.

The thing I like the best about Dan is he appears to be very detail oriented from a fundamentals standpoint, and overall he has done a good job with recruiting players that work hard and seem to be good people. And I think that's a lot of what killed Croom. It's one thing to talk it, but you have to walk it. And that's not easy- and Dan really should be commended for what he has done in that respect, which I think gets overlooked a lot.

I also think he didn't get Mississippi and that hurt him a lot too. Instead of recruiting Alabama so hard, he probably should have done what Dan is doing now- focus on Mississippi guys and try to beat the bushes for the Benardrick McKinney's and Chris Jones's. I don't think he fully understood the Egg Bowl rivalry either- see 45-0. We never had the focus and intensity that we should have had for that game other than maybe 2005 when Norwood carried us to a win.

Nailed it. Everyone overlooks this aspect of the Crxxm Error. He was convinced you couldn't win with MS players, so he tried to get the "overlooked" players in Alabama. The problem is those "overlooked" players all sucked and never had even a sniff of interest from any legit D-I program. In contrast, look at Bear Wilson. Yeah, he was "overlooked," but the Auburn was after him hard the final 6 weeks or so of his recruitment. They new he was a player and desperately wanted to sign him.

You're also correct that he never understood the importance of the Battle for the Golden Egg (starting now, I'm gonna bring back the REAL name of this game). Furthermore, he didn't care to understand its importance. By contrast, look at his predecessor. After losing to TSUN for the first time and catching serious hell, JWS said he hadn't understood how important that game was to our people. But he went on to say that he understood now and winning the Battle for the Golden Egg would be a priority. Before the wheels came off, The Kang was 6-3 in 9 games against the BearSharks. Crxxm, however, stressed beating Alabama. He was pissed they hired Shula over him and wanted blood. In a way, 45-0 is actually the worst example of Crxxm's inability to understand the Battle for the Golden Egg. Sure, that's the worst blowout by either side in the game's history. However, it really wasn't that big a shock. The signs had been there for weeks that the players had given up on Crxxm. I'd say the previous year, 2007, was a better example. Bowl eligibility on the line. Golden Egg Trophy at stake. No way a team is flat in that scenario.....oh wait. We were. It took us 3.5 Quarters to show up for that game. Just totally ridiculous, even though we wound up winning.

[I seen it dawg]

This guy is an abomination

[quickstrike2]

He is gone, that's the absolute best part about Sly Croom. That era will always make me appreciate a coach with some ability. And I say it again, the reason Croom is labeled as such a good guy is because there literally is nothing else to say about his era as a coach than that from the ones that defend him. And who knows, maybe that's not true either.

[Percho]

I actually took the article as a good thing. I'm glad to know that Croom still pulls for us to succeed. Maybe I'm reading it the wrong way.

I am with you. I think you are reading it correctly.

[LC Dawg]

I never really bought that Croom was getting rid of players because they were trouble. I really always felt he was getting rid of them to buy himself more time. I think he wasn't sure if he could win or not so he wanted a built in excuse that he didn't have any good players because he was cleaning up the program. The biggest player issue during his reign was by a player that he brought in from another school, who I think had some questions about his character (Brown - the OL dismissed for gun charges). When Croom has talked about not being given enough time he always has mentioned that he had to get rid of a lot of players because he cleaned up the program. For the record, I think Charlie Strong is using this same tactic at Texas.
That being said, I wish this would just go away because we are the #1 team in the country and I don't want our like/dislike of a former coach to become a big news item.

[MarketingBully01]

They guy that in 5 years couldn't put together a better offense than 103rd in the country

The guy who was more successful peepin' then coachin'. I have to say whenever I think of Croom nowadays it's of the peepin' variety and not the coach. Whoever came up with Peepin' Crooms was awesome. I have gotten more entertainment out of that then a lot of other stuff considering he gave us that lovely "Remember the Maine" game.

[TrapGame]

Croom was in way over his head. He had no business being a head coach.

[maroonmania]

Croom was in way over his head. He had no business being a head coach.

Should be able to read the tea leaves when a guy was a coach in the NFL for 18 years (when we hired him) but yet he can't really elevate himself above a RB coach. I realize he did get a 2 year stint as an OC but it didn't work out well.