-
there's been a great deal of discussion re: Tiebreakers, so I ran the numbers....
the short version is this:
there seems to be no possibility of a 4 way tie.
in the event of a 3 way tie, Auburn will smoke bama, MSU and OM.
also, in the event of a 3 way tie, OM will not win out over anyone....
summary: MSU and Bammers best hope (in the event of a tie) is that the tie is with OM (and not AU)...
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
-
Originally Posted by
TUSK
the short version is this:
there seems to be no possibility of a 4 way tie.
in the event of a 3 way tie, Auburn will smoke bama, MSU and OM.
also, in the event of a 3 way tie, OM will not win out over anyone....
summary: MSU and Bammers best hope (in the event of a tie) is that the tie is with OM (and not AU)...
Why does Auburn have such a massive advantage in a 3 way tie?
-
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Why does Auburn have such a massive advantage in a 3 way tie?
East Division Opponents.
B.S. Geosciences, Professional Meteorology Concentration, Operational Emphasis
c/o 2015
Mississippi State University
@ColdSouthern911
Leicester City FC Owner
-
Yeah Auburn having an advantage doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
-
Originally Posted by
TheRef
East Division Opponents.
Can someone post the actual rules for a tie?
-
Originally Posted by
mstatefan91
Can someone post the actual rules for a tie?
Not the rule verbage itself, but here is an article from Dennis Dodd in May explaining the new tiebreaker rule.
Going forward, if a divisional tie could not be broken through that lengthy tiebreaker list, then the schedule strength of each team's two opponents from the opposite division would be evaluated.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...ll-playoff-era
B.S. Geosciences, Professional Meteorology Concentration, Operational Emphasis
c/o 2015
Mississippi State University
@ColdSouthern911
Leicester City FC Owner
-
Originally Posted by
TheRef
That's ridiculous. Thankfully, it will not come down to that. I can see a two way tie but there will not be a three way tie at the end of this season. (pretty confident)
In that I mean we may lose in Tuscaloosa, but I think AU beats Bama and we beat OM to win the west.
I'm hoping we just win it all
Last edited by mstatefan91; 10-16-2014 at 12:34 AM.
LFC YNWA
-
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Why does Auburn have such a massive advantage in a 3 way tie?
the new tie breaking system hinges on the SEC records of East Divisional opponents...
currently:
AU - USCe (2-3) & UGA (3-1); 5-4
UA - UT (0-2) & FLA (2-2); 2-4
MSU - UK (2-1) & Vandy (0-4); 3-5
UM - UT (0-2) & Vandy (0-4); 0-6
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
-
If we didn't go to the SEC championship, as a one loss team, because Auburn got to play more difficult Eastern division opponents, then the playoff committee would have to consider the winner of the Egg Bowl as a 2nd SEC team in the playoff. It would be absurd to be knocked out of the playoffs because of a rule like that, especially when we would've beaten the team that would be in the SEC championship
-
Originally Posted by
TUSK
the new tie breaking system hinges on the SEC records of East Divisional opponents...
currently:
AU - USCe (2-3) & UGA (3-1); 5-4
UA - UT (0-2) & FLA (2-2); 2-4
MSU - UK (2-1) & Vandy (0-4); 3-5
UM - UT (0-2) & Vandy (0-4); 0-6
Hey buddy, you better rank MSU ahead of Bama on your little graph there. 3-5 is a higher winning percentage than 2-4
-
essentially, it penalizes the team with the softer schedule....
having Vandy on the schedule both gets a win, but also hurts in the event of a tie....
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
-
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Hey buddy, you better rank MSU ahead of Bama on your little graph there. 3-5 is a higher winning percentage than 2-4
Yeah it would be.
AU
MSU
UA
TSUN
-
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Hey buddy, you better rank MSU ahead of Bama on your little graph there. 3-5 is a higher winning percentage than 2-4
h
His math for us is wrong though. 2-5
-
Originally Posted by
TUSK
essentially, it penalizes the team with the softer schedule....
having Vandy on the schedule both gets a win, but also hurts in the event of a tie....
3-5 is higher than 2-4. That could change throughout the season but currently we would be higher than Bama
Edit: Missouridawg has it correct. We would be 2-5 currently. What a ridiculous rule
-
Originally Posted by
missouridawg
h
His math for us is wrong though. 2-5
Dang your right
-
Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Hey buddy, you better rank MSU ahead of Bama on your little graph there. 3-5 is a higher winning percentage than 2-4
well, that post didn't show future competition.... UK and Vandy both have to still play MSU... so, it's likely 2 more losses for MSU's eastern opponents...
bama has already played UF...
make sense?
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
-
Well. Like I said. I hope we win out. But if we have to lose one, I would rather it be to Bama with AU beating Bama and us beating TSUN. That would clear it up no problem. Correct?
-
It is a ridiculous rule, especially when considering how it could affect the NC.
It's tough though, I'm not sure of what a better rule be.
I could argue that Ole Miss has the easiest schedule of all. They get Bama, Auburn, and MSU all at home. Literally every tough game for them is at home.
Auburn does have the toughest schedule though. That's not really debatable. Because of that though, I think Auburn will have at least 2 losses
-
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
-
Originally Posted by
mstatefan91
Well. Like I said. I hope we win out. But if we have to lose one, I would rather it be to Bama with AU beating Bama and us beating TSUN. That would clear it up no problem. Correct?
Correct, we would win it then.
Posting Permissions
- You may not post new threads
- You may not post replies
- You may not post attachments
- You may not edit your posts
-
Forum Rules
Disclaimer: Elitedawgs is a privately owned and operated forum that is managed by alumni of Mississippi State University. This website is in no way affiliated with the Mississippi State University, The Southeastern Conference (SEC) or the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA). The views and opinions expressed herein are strictly those of the post author and may not reflect the views of other members of this forum or elitedawgs.com. The interactive nature of the elitedawgs.com forums makes it impossible for elitedawgs.com to assume responsibility for any of the content posted at this site. Ideas, thoughts, suggestion, comments, opinions, advice and observations made by participants at elitedawgs.com are not endorsed by elitedawgs.com
Elitedawgs: A Mississippi State Fan Forum, Mississippi State Football, Mississippi State Basketball, Mississippi State Baseball, Mississippi State Athletics. Mississippi State message board.
Reply With Quote
