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    Why is anybody upset about Ole Missus being in the preseason AP Top 25?

    They have 3 Preseason AA's
    They have Bo Dirt
    They had a highly ranked Crootin class in 2013

    Hell yeah they should be ranked 18th. They are going to be awesome this year. With that kind of talent- any coach could win 9-10 games. Shirley they wont underachieve this year and will most certainly live up to the hype? When they have ever failed to live up to the hype before? This is Ole Missus we talking about.

    They are awesome and should beat Boise by 20 points.
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    How sweet their fall from this pedestal will be? I'm going to enjoy every minute of it.
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    Best Ole Miss team I've seen in my lifetime was 2008. They lost at home to Vanderbilt. Second best lost to Memphis.

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    Ole miss friends should expect 10 wins with all their talent. Anything less is a bust and a failure on Freezes part.

    If you have that much talent and can't win, then it might be time for a change.

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    wait a minute.... I sense satire

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheewgumm View Post
    Ole miss friends should expect 10 wins with all their talent. Anything less is a bust and a failure on Freezes part.

    If you have that much talent and can't win, then it might be time for a change.
    I'm assuming you aren't being sarcastic? Anyway, I'm seriously wondering, because I'm hearing it everywhere: But does UMiss REALLY have "that much talent"? Or are they simply top heavy? I didn't think they were too loaded at all across the board, and their concern about depth seems to justify that. I just don't understand how everyone is coming to the conclusion that they are full of elite talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reason2succeed View Post
    How sweet their fall from this pedestal will be? I'm going to enjoy every minute of it.
    This^

    And its hard to tell with Ole Miss because of their media connections and propaganda. They are the embodiment of thinking something is true because they tell you it is. And you'd be surprised to know how many household names of sports media are connected to Ole Miss some way or another.
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    Really interesting how Freeze has been talking down this year's team more than last year's. Strategy on his part to keep himself off the hot seat, or an indicator of something else?! Only time will tell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BossDawg View Post
    I'm assuming you aren't being sarcastic? Anyway, I'm seriously wondering, because I'm hearing it everywhere: But does UMiss REALLY have "that much talent"? Or are they simply top heavy? I didn't think they were too loaded at all across the board, and their concern about depth seems to justify that. I just don't understand how everyone is coming to the conclusion that they are full of elite talent.
    Might wanna check your satire and sarcasm meters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by randyholloway View Post
    Really interesting how Freeze has been talking down this year's team more than last year's. Strategy on his part to keep himself off the hot seat, or an indicator of something else?! Only time will tell!
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    So, among all this satirical banter, let me interject a hypothesis and a few questions. Hypothesis: Ole Miss falls from grace, fails to reach 10 wins, fails to live up to the hype and generally disappoints their fans. Questions: What combination of wins and losses puts Freeze on the hot seat or gets him fired? Which teams must he beat in order to avoid termination (besides State)? Do we really want him fired or just sweating under the pressure? Do we really care?

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    All I care about it that we beat them on the field. If things go the way I think they will, it will take care of itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgPoundtheRock View Post
    So, among all this satirical banter, let me interject a hypothesis and a few questions. Hypothesis: Ole Miss falls from grace, fails to reach 10 wins, fails to live up to the hype and generally disappoints their fans. Questions: What combination of wins and losses puts Freeze on the hot seat or gets him fired? Which teams must he beat in order to avoid termination (besides State)? Do we really want him fired or just sweating under the pressure? Do we really care?
    Not really.

    With that said, I'll attempt to play along. Anything less than 8 wins will have their bat shit crazy fans on suicide alert. In their minds, they've already built themselves into a juggernaut capable of competing with the elite. Hell, they had a real fingernail biting 25-point loss to Bama last season. Why shouldn't they win at least 9?

    I think Freezus is safe this year, unless he posts a 2-10 or worse. Don't see that happening. But they've got to win at least 3 of their non-cons and beat one of Auburn/Bama/LSU for their fans to stay on board. If they lose to both Boise and ULL, and finish 5-7 (which I think is very plausible), then Freeze's seat will be scalding hot coming into 2015. Especially since Freezus won't be able to claim another Crootin' Championship in February to pacify the congregation. If he starts slow in '15, he could be done before the halfway point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgPoundtheRock View Post
    So, among all this satirical banter, let me interject a hypothesis and a few questions. Hypothesis: Ole Miss falls from grace, fails to reach 10 wins, fails to live up to the hype and generally disappoints their fans. Questions: What combination of wins and losses puts Freeze on the hot seat or gets him fired? Which teams must he beat in order to avoid termination (besides State)? Do we really want him fired or just sweating under the pressure? Do we really care?
    He won't be fired after this year. Short of a Petrino type embarrassing incident, which with him is a distinct possibility the way he handles himself in public. Now to clarify, he may not cheat on his wife but I could see an embarrassing incident such as him getting into a fight with an Ole Miss fan or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgPoundtheRock View Post
    So, among all this satirical banter, let me interject a hypothesis and a few questions. Hypothesis: Ole Miss falls from grace, fails to reach 10 wins, fails to live up to the hype and generally disappoints their fans. Questions: What combination of wins and losses puts Freeze on the hot seat or gets him fired? Which teams must he beat in order to avoid termination (besides State)? Do we really want him fired or just sweating under the pressure? Do we really care?
    If he loses to us in Oxford, finishes below us in both win total and SECW standings, he will be on the hot seat in a manner of speaking. Now will they fire him if we win 10 and they 9? Of course not. Will they think about it? You bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by randyholloway View Post
    Really interesting how Freeze has been talking down this year's team more than last year's. Strategy on his part to keep himself off the hot seat, or an indicator of something else?! Only time will tell!
    He talks down expectations every year. His first year he whined about not having a full roster of players.

    He lied. He considered redshirts as empty roster spots.

    The point is Freeze exaggerates how bad the preseason appears. Under-promise and over-deliver is a good formula for business.

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    We all remember how well they handled the expectations and pressure of being ranked preseason #4 right? Yeah, they don't handle pressure very well. I don't see Lord Freezus handling this years expectations well. Also, looking forward to his little bitch meltdowns on twitter when he gets called out. Cant wait.

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    I think if Freeze fails to post a winning season *AND* loses the Egg Bowl in Oxford he's out. The recruiting will never get any better than what they've had over the past two years and they are not rational, they expect results immediately. I think he has to bowl to keep his job this year.

    Most people expect them to do this, but I do not. I think they're vulnerable on the road against A&M, at a neutral site against Boise, and that Tennessee could surprise them. If they were to lose those games (big "if", no doubt), anything can happen.

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    Louisiana-Lafayette is going to beat UMiss. Book it.

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