OleMissGuy says, "Ole is a term of affection in the South..Ole Miss is the same thing

[Political Hack]

did he just call all farmers, people who drive trucks, wear belt buckles, dip, wear boots, and wear cowboy hats racists?

talk about stereotyping... wow.

[Political Hack]

a fan base that waved rebel flags until the 1990's calling someone else rednecks is hilarious.

[BeardoMSU]

I dont think good ol boy is racist. I do think that 99% of folks that are referred to as a GOB are racist.

Yeah, my bad; this is exactly what I meant to say.

Obviously I don't think "GOB" is a phrase that offends and should be taken away, Smitty. But throughout my entire life, every time I heard someone being referenced to as a GOB, it was because they were either 1) a racist, or 2) a simpleton redneck (these aren't mutually exclusive either, I suppose), neither of which are anything I'd want to be regarded as.

Now if I was a "country boy" who wears camo and a a belt buckle, drives a pickup, and speaks with a distinct southern accent - who wasn't racist, who wasn't a simpleton, etc. - I'd probably see GOB as offensive, or at least giving the perception of a stereotype that I'd not appreciate being associated with.

[BeardoMSU]

I'm surprised he didn't drop the ole "Harvard of the South" moniker, lol.

[Political Hack]

maybe we should congratulate them on being so welcoming.***

[Smitty]

In my 30+ years I've always regarded GOB as just something that correlates with a hunting/fishing/pickup truck... Race has not once even come into the discussion about that. We have got to stop it with the race stuff and looking for ghosts where there aren't any.

[defiantdog]

I drove a camry when I went to State

[Gordon Gekko]

There is no doubt in my mind the origins of the name Ole Miss. But I do believe until all this came to light the vast majority of people would tell you it referred to what the OP was describing, a term of affection for the school. I know that's what I thought it was until a couple years ago. So if words and phrases that used to be benign can evolve into terrible words and phrases that can no longer be uttered without fear of repercussions from the lib PC police, why can't a term that had a different origin change into something that is a term of affection? Some people just want to be offended by everything.

[blacklistedbully]

There is no doubt in my mind the origins of the name Ole Miss. But I do believe until all this came to light the vast majority of people would tell you it referred to what the OP was describing, a term of affection for the school. I know that's what I thought it was until a couple years ago. So if words and phrases that used to be benign can evolve into terrible words and phrases that can no longer be uttered without fear of repercussions from the lib PC police, why can't a term that had a different origin change into something that is a term of affection? Some people just want to be offended by everything.

I would say a school with the legacy of the Meredith riots (where people were murdered), continues to use, "Rebels", and until just a few years ago chanted, en masse, "The South Shall Rise Again!" at games, is a school that perhaps loses the "benefit of the doubt" when it comes to keeping such a term as, "Ole Miss". Nay, a school with such a horrible legacy should be distancing themselves as much and as fast as they can from such "traditions".

[BeardoMSU]

In my 30+ years I've always regarded GOB as just something that correlates with a hunting/fishing/pickup truck... Race has not once even come into the discussion about that. We have got to stop it with the race stuff and looking for ghosts where there aren't any.

Well, I guess the "stereotype" is often that of a "redneck", I suppose, but in my experience, from the people I've seen described as "GOB's", I knew that something I never wanted to be called because most of those people were also racists. Now that may not be the standard, but it's certainly there....

[Gordon Gekko]

I would say a school with the legacy of the Meredith riots (where people were murdered), continues to use, "Rebels", and until just a few years ago chanted, en masse, "The South Shall Rise Again!" at games, is a school that perhaps loses the "benefit of the doubt" when it comes to keeping such a term as, "Ole Miss". Nay, a school with such a horrible legacy should be distancing themselves as much and as fast as they can from such "traditions".

I never said one word about rebels or the south will rise again. I stand by that the vast majority of people would say it is a term of affection. If you guys want to rub the origins in their face to score some kind of points so be it, but I don't think Ole Miss is something to get into a tizzy about.

[BeardoMSU]

I drove a camry when I went to State

How is that possible?

If you go to state, you're only choice of a career is in agriculture, 'cause we're just "that ag. school".

(he conveniently forgot about engineering, Veterinary Medicine, a number of scientific fields like biology, geology, archaeology, chemistry, etc., and forestry)

[BulldogDX55]

For the degree I received, most of my classes were on the drill field or engineering row. There were some boots, very few cowboy hats (to the point where they stuck out if there was one, and I can't comment on belt buckles because I wasn't looking at other guys in that region.

Maybe it's different over at the Turf/Ag/PGM schools, but the majority of the student population isn't like that. I graduated about a year ago for reference.

I'd be willing to bet that OleMissGuy has never been on our campus while classes were in session.

[blacklistedbully]

How is that possible?

If you go to state, you're only choice of a career is in agriculture, 'cause we're just "that ag. school".

(he conveniently forgot about engineering, Veterinary Medicine, a number of scientific fields like biology, geology, archaeology, chemistry, etc., and forestry)

When I went in the 80's we also had the better College of Business, and Architecture. Has that changed?

[BSME04]

So wait, the dukes of hazard were racists? Childhood...ruined...

[blacklistedbully]

I never said one word about rebels or the south will rise again. I stand by that the vast majority of people would say it is a term of affection. If you guys want to rub the origins in their face to score some kind of points so be it, but I don't think Ole Miss is something to get into a tizzy about.

Didn't say or infer you did. Just making the point that, considering their particularly ugly past, they should perhaps not be so reluctant to make these changes themselves, and should be far less defensive about it.

These same folks are the ones who like to claim Col Reb was never associated with the Confederacy, and even suggest he was a tribute to on old, blind black man who used to live there. Then you show them pics from the early days of Colonel Reb where he very specifically wore a Confederate uniform, and they disappear from the thread. That, or switch to their standard tactic of, "Yeah, well y'all are just as bad if not worse!".

[Gordon Gekko]

Didn't say or infer you did. Just making the point that, considering their particularly ugly past, they should perhaps not be so reluctant to make these changes themselves, and should be far less defensive about it.

These same folks are the ones who like to claim Col Reb was never associated with the Confederacy, and even suggest he was a tribute to on old, blind black man who used to live there. Then you show them pics from the early days of Colonel Reb where he very specifically wore a Confederate uniform, and they disappear from the thread.

There's no doubt the rebels and col reb were and always have been confederate symbols. Anyone denying that is not being honest. I see the term Ole Miss differently and regardless of origins I see it as a term of affection. Now, if they want to get rid of it that's their business, but there is plenty of racist stuff we can give them grief over besides the nickname.

[CadaverDawg]

In my 30+ years I've always regarded GOB as just something that correlates with a hunting/fishing/pickup truck... Race has not once even come into the discussion about that. We have got to stop it with the race stuff and looking for ghosts where there aren't any.

I agree. It offends me that Certain posters consider "GOB" as simpleton, racist, rednecks. I know a ton of people in MS, and I have several friends that are both black and white in construction, agriculture, etc... And I have black AND white friends that I call GOB's, bc they are just good, down to Earth, salt of the Earth, folks with good morals. I consider that to be a GOB. So who are the liberals to tell MS folks what a GOB should stand for when we made that term to begin with?

Just ridiculous that Good Ol Boy be brought into this discussion at all. Never ceases to amaze me what the PC crowd will bring up next. What a joke.

[BeardoMSU]

When I went in the 80's we also had the better College of Business, and Architecture. Has that changed?

Yup, my bad, forgot about those 2. I knew I was missing something.

[MSUDawg4Life]

From freedictionary.com:

good old boy also good ol' boy or good ole boy (l)n. Slang A man having qualities held to be characteristic of certain Southern white males, such as a relaxed or informal manner, strong loyalty to family and friends, and often an anti-intellectual bias and intolerant point of view.

It's interesting that some of you didn't know good ol' boy had a negative connotation.