This is the kind of stuff that makes me afraid Ray will never get it done at MSU...

[MadDawg]

There was already a fire burning when Ray was hired. His approach seems to be to let it burn all the way to the ground so you can build it up the way you want it. Some wanted him to put it out and try to repair what was left of the house.

We'll see if he was right, but it's definitely too early still to make a judgement on that.

Around these parts, we call that the Croom Method.

[engie]

Around these parts, we call that the Croom Method.

Around these, we call it the Cohen Method.

[MadDawg]

Around these, we call it the Cohen Method.

I hope you are right that Ray is just another Cohen in waiting. We shall see.

[engie]

I hope you are right that Ray is just another Cohen in waiting. We shall see.

I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying that we don't know yet. This year will tell the story either way and the fanbase should be more united either way by the time it's over...

[Dawg61]

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Stop comparing Ray to Cohen

[TheRef]

61.....you need to put a NSFW warning on that. I about vomited all over my whole setup...

[Dawg61]

61.....you need to put a NSFW warning on that. I about vomited all over my whole setup...

Lol my bad

[Goat Holder]

The fact of the matter is this. The dumpster fire that Rick Ray inherited was as bad as the dumpster fire that Scott Drew inherited at Baylor. Scott Drew didn't have a winning season at Baylor until his 5th year. This program was such a dumpster fire that the likes of Bryce Drew and the Murray State coach wanted no part of it.

The hate on Rick Ray has very little to do with the product on the floor and has everything to do with who he isn't. He isn't Kenny Payne and doesn't have Kenny's connection with the handlers of the AAU racket. He can coach circles around Kenny Payne from an x's and o's standpoint though.

Since when do you have the right to chastise anyone over their disdain for a coach......weren't you the guy that supported Ron Polk until the bitter end, no matter the harm he was trying to do to the university and John Cohen? All because of his ego?

[Goat Holder]

Please stop acting like MSU is East Mississippi Community College. There's 500 candidates across USA that would take a million dollar SEC men's head basketball coaching job. Ray was perfect in Stricklin's eyes for what he wanted accomplished and winning wasn't on the top 5 things in his mind he wanted done. Till he finishes the football stadium and new ballpark we are not getting a new basketball coach.

Thread over....

[Coach34]

Ray has his year coming to show us something. No more excuses- he's had his 2 years to rebuild. Now it's time to get better

[dawgs]

I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying that we don't know yet. This year will tell the story either way and the fanbase should be more united either way by the time it's over...

Relatively speaking, Cohen was light years ahead of ray in the crootin' game even when he was rebuilding the program.

[tcdog70]

Around these parts, we call that the Croom Method.

And Smoot loved the Slytantic. Rick Ray is losing at every aspect of being a Head Coach.

[engie]

Relatively speaking, Cohen was light years ahead of ray in the crootin' game even when he was rebuilding the program.

And so was Polk -- according to 'crootin rankings that were consistently TOTALLY full of shit back in those days, much like basketball rankings are today beyond the top 100 or so obviously elite players in the country...

Recruiting rankings are a total joke in basketball. Too much margin for error with those few players. There are a BUNCH of coaches in basketball that are dominating on the court without ever having a top 50 recruiting class.

[smootness]

And Smoot loved the Slytantic. Rick Ray is losing at every aspect of being a Head Coach.

And I also loved Cohen. I loved Stans for a long time, too. My problem is that I'm biased in favor of our head coach, sometimes for too long. I freely admit that. But I do not believe this is too long. I said when Ray was hired that we couldn't judge him for 2 years. Now we can. If we have the same product on the court this year, me and everyone else who is considered a 'Ray lover' will agree with making a change. Period.

[maroonmania]

I hope you are right that Ray is just another Cohen in waiting. We shall see.

I very, very much doubt that because Cohen is a recruiting machine. Ray on the other hand?