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National basketball program Missouri hires D-II coach
He was the D-II National Champion and is 58 years old. Former Tiger
Interesting
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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I wish we would've hired a D2 coach.
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He coached in Missouri so Im sure he already has relationships with the high school coaches in the state
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
I wish we would've hired a D2 coach.
I don't even know what this means.
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Originally Posted by
HailState39110
He coached in Missouri so Im sure he already has relationships with the high school coaches in the state
What a stupid decision, your suppose to hire assistants with no experience or any relationships with the state or conference. *****
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Originally Posted by
quickstrike2
What a stupid decision, your suppose to hire assistants with no experience or any relationships with the state or conference. *****
How many Mississippi guys did Stands have the last few years?
Renardo Sidney- California
Arnette Moultrue- transfer from UTEP
Dee Bost- North Carolina
Brian Bryant?
Jalen Steele?
white guy from Tennessee?
Stewart
Augustus
Swat
Jamont
Hansbrough
looking back- Mississippi guys haven't helped us much lately
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Originally Posted by
HailState39110
He coached in Missouri so Im sure he already has relationships with the high school coaches in the state
This is irrelevant. Basketball recruiting, at a big school, is much more that just in-state. Mizzou recruits nationally, whether you'd like to admit it or not.
But this hire is definitely a head-scratcher at the moment. Kind of reminds me of the Shula hire at Alabama...
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Originally Posted by
missouridawg
This is irrelevant. Basketball recruiting, at a big school, is much more that just in-state. Mizzou recruits nationally, whether you'd like to admit it or not.
But this hire is definitely a head-scratcher at the moment. Kind of reminds me of the Shula hire at Alabama...
or the Tressel hire at Ohio State.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
or the Tressel hire at Ohio State.
Or Bo Ryan at Wisconsin. Really blew up in their face.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
I wish we would've hired a D2 coach.
Our fans would've reacted the same we if we hired a D2 coach as they did when we hired a D1 assistant.
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Originally Posted by
C222
Our fans would've reacted the same we if we hired a D2 coach as they did when we hired a D1 assistant.
Nope, not if the D2 coach was someone who had ties to MSU like a Butch Pierre or someone like that. The guy they hired also had a national championship to his name and has head coaching experience. It's not as much of a head scratcher as some of you might think.
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I know hiring a head ball coach to be head ball coach sounds complicated, but I promise you other schools put on their big boy britches and do it all the time.
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Originally Posted by
MarketingBully01
Nope, not if the D2 coach was someone who had ties to MSU like a Butch Pierre or someone like that. The guy they hired also had a national championship to his name and has head coaching experience. It's not as much of a head scratcher as some of you might think.
Ask the Missouri fanbase if they like the hire.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
I know hiring a head ball coach to be head ball coach sounds complicated, but I promise you other schools put on their big boy britches and do it all the time.
You think hiring a D2 coach at Missoui was "putting on their big boy britches?"
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MarketingBully is spot on on this one .Some of you guys should have read this guy's Bio first before you made comments . I hope 34 is not using this to compare our hiring of Ray .If you are it makes our AD look like a real dumbass then.

Originally Posted by
MarketingBully01
Nope, not if the D2 coach was someone who had ties to MSU like a Butch Pierre or someone like that. The guy they hired also had a national championship to his name and has head coaching experience. It's not as much of a head scratcher as some of you might think.
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Wasn't Wisconsin's coach the reigning D2 national champion when he was hired?
I honestly don't know why D2 to D1 isn't a bigger thing. Often times they're better coaches because they're dealing with shit talent and have to rely on actually coaching.
I'd love to see how Coach Cal would do in D2.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
I know hiring a head ball coach to be head ball coach sounds complicated, but I promise you other schools put on their big boy britches and do it all the time.
I know Kansas fans were really ticked their administration didn't put their big boy britches on in 1988. Same with Michigan State in 1995.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
I know Kansas fans were really ticked their administration didn't put their big boy britches on in 1988. Same with Michigan State in 1995.
Roy Williams and Tom Izzo Rick Ray is not. Not even close. Also, wasn't Izzo groomed to take over that position anyway basically? Roy Williams was Dean Smith's right hand man. Hell, while we are at it let's throw in Coach K as you guys seem to do. All of these comparisons are just laughable. They don't hold water Smoot. Give it up.
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Originally Posted by
MarketingBully01
Roy Williams and Tom Izzo Rick Ray is not. Not even close. Also, wasn't Izzo groomed to take over that position anyway basically? Roy Williams was Dean Smith's right hand man. Hell, while we are at it let's throw in Coach K as you guys seem to do. All of these comparisons are just laughable. They don't hold water Smoot. Give it up.
I never said they were comparable. Hack tried to make the point that any AD who puts on his 'big boy britches' hires a HC. I proved that was a laughable statement; I didn't mention Ray at all.
And no, Rick Ray is not Coach K. But guess what, neither was Coach K when he was hired at Duke. In today's day and age, that hire would have been blasted by media and fans everywhere.
The point is, there is no tried and true formula on how to hire a successful coach; you hire the guy you think is the right guy for the job, you support him, then you wait and see. We're still in wait-and-see mode on Ray.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
I never said they were comparable. Hack tried to make the point that any AD who puts on his 'big boy britches' hires a HC. I proved that was a laughable statement; I didn't mention Ray at all.
And no, Rick Ray is not Coach K. But guess what, neither was Coach K when he was hired at Duke. In today's day and age, that hire would have been blasted by media and fans everywhere.
The point is, there is no tried and true formula on how to hire a successful coach; you hire the guy you think is the right guy for the job, you support him, then you wait and see. We're still in wait-and-see mode on Ray.
How the **** would that hire be blasted today? He is a disciple of one of the greatest coaches, pro or amateur, regardless of sport, of all time AND he took a service academy to a postseason tournament as a head coach and left with a winning record.
I'm not saying this to downplay Ray, although I stand firm on him being a bad hire, but he had zero business being hired strictly based on his resume. He may have knocked the interview out of the park, great. He is in over his head and any of us could have looked at his resume and saw this. There's no comparison to Coach K's hiring though. Not even in the same realm.
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