7-5

[TrapGame]

That is the minimum number of wins and loses it takes for Lebby to keep his job next year per Steve.

I know the schedule is tough but it is year three and we need to see a massive improvement. I do not think winning at least seven games to show you have made strides as a head coach in year three is asking too much. Plus, we have Arnett as DC now. The defense will not be bottom of the SEC.

I am a Lebby supporter but if he cannot hit that seventh win then I will be completely fine letting him go.

[msstate7]

That's a helluva ultimatum to me. 9 sec games and a road big10 game. 6 wins, and I'd feel alright about him

[BrunswickDawg]

That's a helluva ultimatum to me. 9 sec games and a road big10 game. 6 wins, and I'd feel alright about him

I think that probably comes down to context. If we are in all the games and you have some dumb call or crazy play that is the difference between 6-6/7-5, you probably keep - unless you have the opportunity to grab someone really good.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I think that probably comes down to context. If we are in all the games and you have some dumb call or crazy play that is the difference between 6-6/7-5, you probably keep - unless you have the opportunity to grab someone really good.

I agree. There's a lot of nuance in that statement. If we're 6-6 with an Egg Bowl win and a 2 pt loss at Texas and a 3 pt loss at LSU with an SEC home win , he will be safe.

Anything over 6 and he's without a doubt safe because it means you won 3 SEC games.

[Coach34]

QB play gonna have to get alot better before September for that to happen

[StarkVegasSteve]

QB play gonna have to get alot better before September for that to happen

And our O Line play will have to dramatically improve.

[DownwardDawg]

QB play gonna have to get alot better before September for that to happen

And I just don't see it. If KT is the starter, I think it's gonna take most of the season before he turns into what we're all hoping to see.

[StarkVegasSteve]

And I just don't see it. If KT is the starter, I think it's gonna take most of the season before he turns into what we're all hoping to see.

He's going to have to be more comfortable in the pocket. That was his problem in the Egg Bowl and the bowl game. He panicked if someone wasn't open in .8 seconds. I've went back and watched the all 22 a couple of times and we had receivers open(Thompson and Evans were open a bunch) but Kamario never took the time to progress.

Early in the year we are going to have a lot of quick game with RPO stuff. He's going to have to get acclimated to game speed. I trust Lebby to get that part right. I just don't know that I trust the line to hold up just yet.

[Todd4State]

If we win 7 games that means we won at least 4 SEC games. I'd be very surprised if we have some kind of ultimatum out there like that.

[Todd4State]

And I just don't see it. If KT is the starter, I think it's gonna take most of the season before he turns into what we're all hoping to see.

He also has to stay healthy. Harder to do if he is running around all the time.

[Todd4State]

He's going to have to be more comfortable in the pocket. That was his problem in the Egg Bowl and the bowl game. He panicked if someone wasn't open in .8 seconds. I've went back and watched the all 22 a couple of times and we had receivers open(Thompson and Evans were open a bunch) but Kamario never took the time to progress.

Early in the year we are going to have a lot of quick game with RPO stuff. He's going to have to get acclimated to game speed. I trust Lebby to get that part right. I just don't know that I trust the line to hold up just yet.

Sounds familiar unfortunately.**

[Goldendawg]

He's going to have to be more comfortable in the pocket. That was his problem in the Egg Bowl and the bowl game. He panicked if someone wasn't open in .8 seconds. I've went back and watched the all 22 a couple of times and we had receivers open(Thompson and Evans were open a bunch) but Kamario never took the time to progress.

Early in the year we are going to have a lot of quick game with RPO stuff. He's going to have to get acclimated to game speed. I trust Lebby to get that part right. I just don't know that I trust the line to hold up just yet.

1-15, 7-18, and bone head in-game decisions with unknown or re-thread buddy assistant hires. Not talking about Arnett as he has to be a difference maker to reach 7-5. I see more of the same in '26. This isn't horseshoes and hand grenades. It's time to win in the SEC. Many on here could have only a last-minute win over a pitiful Arkansas team, which had about 200 yards in penalties. Again, 1-15 is not acceptable for any State HC. This is Shira territory.

[TrapGame]

Lebby is going to face several new coaches next year and a couple of coaches on the hot seat. It is time to show them you can be a legit SEC coach. We out recruit Minnesota by 25 spots. If they roll us like a homeless bum I may be out at that point.

It is interesting that Steve is saying this publicly. I guess one could construe that we are preparing to move on. I would be willing to bet that if we are 2-5 we are going ahead and moving on. He will be a fired coach walking at that point.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Lebby is going to face several new coaches next year and a couple of coaches on the hot seat. It is time to show them you can be a legit SEC coach. We out recruit Minnesota by 25 spots. If they roll us like a homeless bum I may be out at that point.

It is interesting that Steve is saying this publicly. I guess one could construe that we are preparing to move on. I would be willing to bet that if we are 2-5 we are going ahead and moving on. He will be a fired coach walking at that point.

Minnesota at their place will be tough early in the year. Teams salivate at the chance to knock off an SEC team. If we can make it past that one, which I think we will, I think we can find a way to 6 or 7. South Carolina in Columbia could be a rough first SEC start for Kamario. In a way, I'm glad he goes on the road to a P4 team before we travel to Columbia.

[parabrave]

And our O Line play will have to dramatically improve.

Number 1 issue.

[R2Dawg]

I think that probably comes down to context. If we are in all the games and you have some dumb call or crazy play that is the difference between 6-6/7-5, you probably keep - unless you have the opportunity to grab someone really good.

Totally agree. He can't piss away 3 wins like he did this year, next year whatever the win total is.

[Todd4State]

Lebby is going to face several new coaches next year and a couple of coaches on the hot seat. It is time to show them you can be a legit SEC coach. We out recruit Minnesota by 25 spots. If they roll us like a homeless bum I may be out at that point.

It is interesting that Steve is saying this publicly. I guess one could construe that we are preparing to move on. I would be willing to bet that if we are 2-5 we are going ahead and moving on. He will be a fired coach walking at that point.

I just hope we hire Joe Judge and not Dan.
Which means our dumbass boosters will hire Dan.

At the end of the day I'm glad that my job isn't riding on Zach Arnett. I've heard he feels like there is a lot of pressure on him. I have a bad feeling this isn't the same dude he was in 2022. I have a feeling he has PTSD after everything that has happened.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I just hope we hire Joe Judge and not Dan.
Which means our dumbass boosters will hire Dan.

At the end of the day I'm glad that my job isn't riding on Zach Arnett. I've heard he feels like there is a lot of pressure on him. I have a bad feeling this isn't the same dude he was in 2022. I have a feeling he has PTSD after everything that has happened.

We won't hire either of them. I'm interested to see what Brian Hartline looks like in Year 1 at USF. I'm also interested to see if Jerry Mack builds on what he did year 1 at Kennesaw. I may be in a minority, but I don't think Huff is going to fare well at Memphis. I'd honestly make a run at Jedd Fisch. He wants out of Washington so badly that he'd be amenable to our job. Unlike he would've been in the past.

Dan isn't coming back. Period. End of Discussion. He's at UNLV until at least 2028. Cannon is at Bishop Gorman right now and in the 10th grade. One of the main reasons he took that job is so Cannon could go to Gorman.

On Arnett, the fire is still there. It's very much still there. From everything I've heard, we're getting piss and vinegar Arnett once more. I, like you, was worried about what Arnett we would be getting. Everyone I've spoken to says this is the old Arnett. Gruff, pissed off, and doesn't want to associate with anyone.

[PGHBulldogBG]

Brent Vigen is the one we need to hire if we want a chance to get into the top of the league. We need to do what we can to get him here. No more coordinators, no more coaches winning in leagues because they have a talent advantage. It's time for a coach who has consistently won big at lower level schools.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Brent Vigen is the one we need to hire if we want a chance to get into the top of the league. We need to do what we can to get him here. No more coordinators, no more coaches winning in leagues because they have a talent advantage. It's time for a coach who has consistently won big at lower level schools.

Does he know how to operate in the NIL world? That's the biggest thing I look at these days. Also, is he winning at Montana St because they fund it better than 95% of the FCS?

How would he do at a place that funds lower than 65% of their own league?