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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Bad source. Really bad. Let me guess it's an lsu source. Well take him out of your roll-a-dex


    Yep- it was def more than 3MM by alot- and now there is this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    I won't go into it all. But a lot. We offered a lot. And then it got to a lot more.
    There are some that suggest we were willing to outbid LSU at the end. Any truth to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redstickdawg View Post
    I have it from an excellent source that it was ~$3MM
    Maybe to visit

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    What's the market price gonna be for a player like that in 5 more years? 10 million? 15 million?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    And this is why I poo poo on us ever winning anything decent again. Now that its about money- we're done. Kang Jackie thru Mullen was our Golden Age of football.

    People are fired up in baseball about BOC and all that- but the fact we got a 10 figure injection into baseball was the big thing. We are a top money program in baseball- the exact opposite of football
    If the theory that you can't win expect by buying the best players then yeah that is true. Indiana says hi.

    Jackie and Mullen both won at MSU in other ways - it wasn't getting the 5 star players. MSU just has to adapt and continue to get really good players with good attitudes and lot of upside to win. We have done it and can continue to do it. We'll get the occasional top recruit - Kamario, etc. but the Kelly Jones of the world are out there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbell View Post
    There are some that suggest we were willing to outbid LSU at the end. Any truth to that.
    No we kept upping. He kept upping. They kept upping....

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    Quote Originally Posted by R2Dawg View Post
    If the theory that you can't win expect by buying the best players then yeah that is true. Indiana says hi.

    Jackie and Mullen both won at MSU in other ways - it wasn't getting the 5 star players. MSU just has to adapt and continue to get really good players with good attitudes and lot of upside to win. We have done it and can continue to do it. We'll get the occasional top recruit - Kamario, etc. but the Kelly Jones of the world are out there too.
    We're going to have to start recruiting and doing things conventionally. There isn't as much talent in JUCO anymore because of the portal. Players are better off starting at USM to prove themselves. Dan's method won't work either because we can't just tell a guy to sit on the bench for three years and wait their turn because again- they're better off going to USM and playing.

    I think we have the right idea but our fans aren't patient enough to see it through. Take as many four star Mississippi guys as we can and fill in the gaps with the portal. Our fans think that everyone has to be able to play now but there is some level of development still. We need to get a more manageable schedule too. Which is better this year. A lot of it is timing honestly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R2Dawg View Post
    If the theory that you can't win expect by buying the best players then yeah that is true. Indiana says hi.
    And aGAINNNNNN- Indiana spent more on 1 QB than we spent on our entire QB room. They spend 20MM-25MM more on football than we do. Indiana has way more money than we do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    And aGAINNNNNN- Indiana spent more on 1 QB than we spent on our entire QB room. They spend 20MM-25MM more on football than we do. Indiana has way more money than we do
    Guaran-damn-tee you that Lebby wouldn't have won a NC with Indiana's team. It's not all about money dude. It's not all about how shitty Starkville is.

    University of I is in Bloomington. Has way more population at the school and the town compared to Starkvegas. But Indiana as a state has a shit ton more flagship universities and schools compared to the state of Mississippi. They have more of an excuse for their shitty football history. Coaching matters to evaluate the talent and buy the talent. Lebby had a bag of money and still couldn't entice a top portal player to come here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Activated Alpha View Post
    Guaran-damn-tee you that Lebby wouldn't have won a NC with Indiana's team. It's not all about money dude. It's not all about how shitty Starkville is.

    University of I is in Bloomington. Has way more population at the school and the town compared to Starkvegas. But Indiana as a state has a shit ton more flagship universities and schools compared to the state of Mississippi. They have more of an excuse for their shitty football history. Coaching matters to evaluate the talent and buy the talent. Lebby had a bag of money and still couldn't entice a top portal player to come here.
    Indiana also has a billionaire footing a lot of the bill. We have two billionaire alums that refuse to give to athletics.

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    Indiana’s football budget is definitely bigger than ours, but no one has come out and said how big their total player payroll really was for that championship team. I’ve only heard a number about their qb. I would really like to know their player payroll for the year before!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Activated Alpha View Post
    Guaran-damn-tee you that Lebby wouldn't have won a NC with Indiana's team. It's not all about money dude. It's not all about how shitty Starkville is.

    University of I is in Bloomington. Has way more population at the school and the town compared to Starkvegas. But Indiana as a state has a shit ton more flagship universities and schools compared to the state of Mississippi. They have more of an excuse for their shitty football history. Coaching matters to evaluate the talent and buy the talent. Lebby had a bag of money and still couldn't entice a top portal player to come here.
    Right now it's more important that we improve overall than land a guy like Seaton. We have to win more to be able to sell MSU to players like that. Much more to it than throwing a bunch of money at people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdawg View Post
    Indiana’s football budget is definitely bigger than ours, but no one has come out and said how big their total player payroll really was for that championship team. I’ve only heard a number about their qb. I would really like to know their player payroll for the year before!
    Their HC said they didn't spend anywhere close to what people say

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Their HC said they didn't spend anywhere close to what people say
    Then they are the most amazing talent evaluators on the planet! ...got a feeling that he's trying to make it look like they didn't just buy a championship, and the truth is in the middle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely View Post
    Then they are the most amazing talent evaluators on the planet! ...got a feeling that he's trying to make it look like they didn't just buy a championship, and the truth is in the middle
    It would seem to me those James Madison players wouldn’t cost an arm and a leg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely View Post
    Then they are the most amazing talent evaluators on the planet! ...got a feeling that he's trying to make it look like they didn't just buy a championship, and the truth is in the middle
    247 gave them these ranks last year...
    39th overall
    48th composite
    25th transfer

    Nothing screams big spender there.

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    When basically every team is rebuilt every year, I would think a coach that teaches fundamentals on an elite level will have a good to great team every season.

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    Matt Wyatt said yesterday that we need to concentrate on high character guys that don't want the money and will not transfer and that talent should be secondary.

    Keep this man as far away from recruiting as possible. That may work at North Dakota State but it's a recipe to kill your program at Mississippi State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Matt Wyatt said yesterday that we need to concentrate on high character guys that don't want the money and will not transfer and that talent should be secondary.

    Keep this man as far away from recruiting as possible. That may work at North Dakota State but it's a recipe to kill your program at Mississippi State.
    Yeah, that sounds dumb.

    I do think since we won't be able to land the elite talent guys, we should concentrate on experience and smart players

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    We should work hard to become the oldest team in the SEC
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