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State Baseball gurus do you know if our team has anything like this it is unreal...
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Now i would be willing to make a huge donation towards the purchase of this. What do you all think?https://www.facebook.com/reel/1933666157576358
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I have no ideas, but that is an awesome tool. Such an advantage going against a pitcher when you basically have live abs against him all week leading up to the game
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As far as I know we do not. I first heard about this equipment/technology about a year ago so it's pretty new and it's really cool. Right now it's also really expensive and yeah MSU could afford it probably but with this kind of tech the price typically goes down and the tech gets better at the same time.
Knowing MSU we will have this in a year or two probably.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
As far as I know we do not. I first heard about this equipment/technology about a year ago so it's pretty new and it's really cool. Right now it's also really expensive and yeah MSU could afford it probably but with this kind of tech the price typically goes down and the tech gets better at the same time.
Knowing MSU we will have this in a year or two probably.
Well we saved $4M on Seaton
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Originally Posted by
DEDawg
Well we saved $4M on Seaton
We aren't going to soend football funds on baseball.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
We aren't going to soend football funds on baseball.
That was obvious sarcasm. He just forgot to add the ***
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
We aren't going to soend football funds on baseball.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THESE COST?
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
We aren't going to soend football funds on baseball.
As long as State Never Ever spends baseball money on EITHER of the other sports and Never Ever spends football money on basketball EVER!
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Originally Posted by
99jc
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THESE COST?
Yes. It's a subscription service basically and it's over 10K a month for their service and that does not include the price of the actual equipment.
It's cool and I'm all in on it. It's going to be something that every MLB and college team has eventually.
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Originally Posted by
CaptainObvious
As long as State Never Ever spends baseball money on EITHER of the other sports and Never Ever spends football money on basketball EVER!
Baseball is its own entity. They have their own money and a lot of it is from former players and managers on the team who also invest in football in most cases.
MSU fans need to stop with the extreme "stop giving money to baseball" and the "give it all to baseball because we misssed on Seaton" takes.
It's shortsighted and stupid. Both views.
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This has been used in MLB for 15 years. The crux of the equipment is getting the video by pitcher. WF cant call MSU and ask for hi-rez video of each Charlie Foster pitch and in sufficient quality for scouting. A third party could do it but teams would need to cooperate.
On the flip side...
You could pick the MLB version of the pitcher you are going to face. You practice against the Maybach version and play the Temu Version on the weekend.
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
This has been used in MLB for 15 years. The crux of the equipment is getting the video by pitcher. WF cant call MSU and ask for hi-rez video of each Charlie Foster pitch and in sufficient quality for scouting. A third party could do it but teams would need to cooperate.
On the flip side...
You could pick the MLB version of the pitcher you are going to face. You practice against the Maybach version and play the Temu Version on the weekend.
There are video agreements in college baseball for other tech that is used for scouting. I think an agreement for this would be similar as long as everyone has equal access.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Baseball is its own entity. They have their own money and a lot of it is from former players and managers on the team who also invest in football in most cases.
MSU fans need to stop with the extreme "stop giving money to baseball" and the "give it all to baseball because we misssed on Seaton" takes.
It's shortsighted and stupid. Both views.
Your last sentence here encapsulates a lot here for sure. Well said.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
There are video agreements in college baseball for other tech that is used for scouting. I think an agreement for this would be similar as long as everyone has equal access.
This is all happening super fast. In a recent book about Arm mechanics and Arm issues ... the instrumentation of pitchers and biomechanics world is rapidly creating tools for players and coach to avoid injury and detect pre-injury, pre-fatigue tells. At the time of writing, all MLB, and nearly all Triple-A stadiums have the cameras and scanners.
MLB loves the pre-season college tournaments in MLB stadiums because they can scan and video the prospects. It's also a partnership with the Perfect Game and Showcase circuit to perform the tourneys at instrumented stadiums.
The equal access is the MLB bargain. Helps them draft, trade, manage, and develop players.
Don't know the cost, but if the sorry people of WF have this, then every SEC team has it by now. Even Mizzou. WF are just attention hungry goobers that were talking about pitching labs and analytics teams 15 years after they were basic parts of baseball.
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
This is all happening super fast. In a recent book about Arm mechanics and Arm issues ... the instrumentation of pitchers and biomechanics world is rapidly creating tools for players and coach to avoid injury and detect pre-injury, pre-fatigue tells. At the time of writing, all MLB, and nearly all Triple-A stadiums have the cameras and scanners.
MLB loves the pre-season college tournaments in MLB stadiums because they can scan and video the prospects. It's also a partnership with the Perfect Game and Showcase circuit to perform the tourneys at instrumented stadiums.
The equal access is the MLB bargain. Helps them draft, trade, manage, and develop players.
Don't know the cost, but if the sorry people of WF have this, then every SEC team has it by now. Even Mizzou. WF are just attention hungry goobers that were talking about pitching labs and analytics teams 15 years after they were basic parts of baseball.
Dudy Noble has cameras as well. Most if not all SEC stadiums have them as well. The newer tech usually goes to MSU, LSU, and Arkansas first typically. Sometimes we have to set some of our tech up at places like Samford when we play them on the road.
Wake Forest has been ahead of the curve somewhat with their tech since Tom Walter and Muscara got there. I'm not sure what spawned that there- it could have been people at Wake Forest who said, "gee this looks cool and we have a baseball team let's see if we can get them on board." Walter has been around awhile as a coach at places like the University of New Orleans and he was never into tech there. Again, I don't know if he wanted it there and they wouldn't give it to him or how that all came about. Corey Muscara seems to get a lot more credit for it than Walter though.
As far as biomechanics go, pitching has been ahead of hitting. I think that is part of the reason for why pitching has been dominating hitters at the MLB level. Part of it is you have these "hitting gurus" teaching things that aren't sound and don't translate to the game very well. They're basically churning out what I call "accident home run hitters". If you throw a pitch in a certain spot they'll crush it. Throw it anywhere else and they're probably missing it. Pitching instructors aren't all completely innocent though. I think the issue is you have strength coaches that are coaching velocity and aren't concerned about Tommy John and UCL injuries. And very few of the strength coaches really know how to pitch. To be honest I think it's getting better especially on the pitching side. Some MLB organizations are already talking about going back to fundamentals of hitting approach too.
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Idk but one of those players is clearly roided to the moon and back
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Originally Posted by
MoreCowbell
Idk but one of those players is clearly roided to the moon and back
They hit 116 HRs last year and their park is not tiny 330-370-400-370-330. DNF is actually smaller and offers lefty that tiny porch.
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