Jordan Seaton on campus

[BlackSailsDawg]

Yeah, LT, TE, and Edge have been failures by this coaching staff.

LOL! What? Ok...

[KOdawg1]

LOL! What? Ok...

Prove me wrong. And I don't mean respond with a snarky response or something vague. Specifically point out how we've improved the LT, TE, and Edge positions from last year. Go ahead.

[HancockCountyDog]

Prove me wrong. And I don't mean respond with a snarky response or something vague. Specifically point out how we've improved the LT, TE, and Edge positions from last year. Go ahead.

He certainly can't prove you wrong. All he can really do is say "look at all these stars when these kids were in HS".

Lets hope he is right. All of our DL portal signees throughout their careers don't have as many tackles or sacks as Whitson did in 2023 alone.

The positive spin is that we are going after kids who have high upside. The negative spin, we are signing kids who haven't done shit so far on the P4 level.

Lets hope for all of our viewing enjoyment that he is right, and we are wrong. I do not agree with this approach, but the portal is closed and it appears this is the roster we are going to war with next year.

[MetEdDawg]

I find it very interesting that a significant number of folks said our OL couldn't get any worse two weeks ago, then when the starting LT for that group leaves in the portal, who got abused on countless occasions, we all of a sudden suck at OL now.

If our season hung on Jayvin James returning or not returning, there was no hope to begin with people. He wasn't a good piece on a bad OL.

[Todd4State]

I find it very interesting that a significant number of folks said our OL couldn't get any worse two weeks ago, then when the starting LT for that group leaves in the portal, who got abused on countless occasions, we all of a sudden suck at OL now.

If our season hung on Jayvin James returning or not returning, there was no hope to begin with people. He wasn't a good piece on a bad OL.

I imagine if we really wanted Jayvin James to stay we would do what we needed to do to keep him. We didn't do that so that tells me the staff thinks he is pretty expendable.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Prove me wrong. And I don't mean respond with a snarky response or something vague. Specifically point out how we've improved the LT, TE, and Edge positions from last year. Go ahead.

Where do you want to start? OT? McVay is a seasoned starter. Sneh... has played LT since his college career began in 2022. He is an older seasoned guy has not allowed a sack in 2 years as a starter.

James alone allowed 4 sacks and more hurries. He was responsible for 7 flags.

Thats improvement.

[BuckyIsAB****]

He certainly can't prove you wrong. All he can really do is say "look at all these stars when these kids were in HS".

Lets hope he is right. All of our DL portal signees throughout their careers don't have as many tackles or sacks as Whitson did in 2023 alone.

The positive spin is that we are going after kids who have high upside. The negative spin, we are signing kids who haven't done shit so far on the P4 level.

Let?s hope for all of our viewing enjoyment that he is right, and we are wrong. I do not agree with this approach, but the portal is closed and it appears this is the roster we are going to war with next year.

It?s because they are the only ones that will come play for this staff. Same reason we have hired a DC that lied to our team 2 years ago back in the program. It?s why we could only get the assistants we got. All Lebby has done since day 1 is swing and miss. If money is no longer an issue, then what is?

[KOdawg1]

Where do you want to start? OT? McVay is a seasoned starter. Sneh... has played LT since his college career began in 2022. He is an older seasoned guy has not allowed a sack in 2 years as a starter.

James alone allowed 4 sacks and more hurries. He was responsible for 7 flags.

Thats improvement.

McVay isn't a LT. We haven't landed Sneh yet. Until we do, that isn't an improvement.

Okay, now do TE and Edge. You left that out. How have we improved there?

[BigDawg81]

Hearing that we would have to pay right at 6 mil to get Seaton and we are backing off.

[Coach34]

Hearing that we would have to pay right at 6 mil to get Seaton and we are backing off.

Seaton isnt coming here if we paid that. He's going to Miami, LSU, or Oregon.

[BuckyIsAB****]

McVay isn't a LT. We haven't landed Sneh yet. Until we do, that isn't an improvement.

Okay, now do TE and Edge. You left that out. How have we improved there?

We haven?t. And ain?t going to. If you are a HS or portal kid, unless you just love State, why would you come here? What has Lebby done? It?s not like he is super likable or endearing to anyone. He hasn?t done one memorable thing for me personally except lose. He doesn?t work the referees or the sideline, it?s just kinda boring

[BuckyIsAB****]

The money is there. The playing field is supposedly more even. I don?t think so but whatever. What excuse is there? We are staring a football black hole in the face until we get new admins and coaches that kids can get behind and excited about. Or at least provide something. Cignetti is about as personable and relatable as a rock, but at least he is intense. He has something to hang his hat on. What is Lebbros? His swag? Rope hat?

[DEDawg]

We have and we should get him. He really wanted to come here. We are going to have to overpay a tad but such is things at this point.

I gotta imagine we are saving $2M by doing this even overpaying Sneh. Do we use that extra on an edge or were the people ponying up only willing to do it for Seaton? Is there no chance with Bell anymore or is he NFL bound?

[Cowbeller]

The money is there. The playing field is supposedly more even. I don?t think so but whatever. What excuse is there? We are staring a football black hole in the face until we get new admins and coaches that kids can get behind and excited about. Or at least provide something. Cignetti is about as personable and relatable as a rock, but at least he is intense. He has something to hang his hat on. What is Lebbros? His swag? Rope hat?

We have yet to play a down of football with our first expensive, hell not even expensive just more on par, roster and youre already counting losses. Give it a rest dude, we will be fine and if we arent back to square 0 next December with what would be my guess a Lebby downgrade

[Coach34]

We have upgraded the roster some from a talent standpoint. Guys aren’t coming to State no matter who the coach is if they can play at LSU or Miami

[Cowbeller]

We have upgraded the roster some from a talent standpoint. Guys aren’t coming to State no matter who the coach is if they can play at LSU or Miami

This isnt true like it used to be. Id conservatively say 75% of college dudes go to the highest bidder now

[BeardoMSU]

We have upgraded the roster some from a talent standpoint. Guys aren’t coming to State no matter who the coach is if they can play at LSU or Miami

INDIANA.

[Tater]

What is a downgrade on Lebby? Sylvester Croom got Fletcher Cox to play at State

[KOdawg1]

We have upgraded the roster some from a talent standpoint.

Overall? Yes.

At key positions that we knew we needed to upgrade going in? Not necessarily.

[Quaoarsking]

We have yet to play a down of football with our first expensive, hell not even expensive just more on par, roster and youre already counting losses. Give it a rest dude, we will be fine and if we arent back to square 0 next December with what would be my guess a Lebby downgrade

If Lebby is fired in 2026, it means he probably has the 2nd worst tenure of any 21st century SEC head coach, only better than Chad Morris. Maybe Coach O at Ole Miss too, though getting to that point could save his job.

I hope that doesn't happen, but if it does, it would be really hard to downgrade.