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12-29-2025, 12:20 PM
#161

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
He'll be the second highest paid WR behind Jeremiah Smith next year. The rest of the country just better hope they aren't on the same team.
Texas makes a lot of sense. So does Bama if the rumors around Ryan Williams hitting the portal. I've been told he is about to receive a massive pay cut which means he will be in the portal. Look for LSU to make a run at Williams and then Bama makes a run at Coleman.
If that happens, Golesh is already in trouble.
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12-29-2025, 12:22 PM
#162
Look for a bunch of LSU players to hit the portal in the next 48 hours. The Green kid that played TE is basically Cam Coleman for them. I'll be interested to see how many of those guys stay.
There are plenty of really nice pieces that I would love to land from that team.
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12-29-2025, 12:30 PM
#163

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
Texas makes a lot of sense. So does Bama if the rumors around Ryan Williams hitting the portal. I've been told he is about to receive a massive pay cut which means he will be in the portal. Look for LSU to make a run at Williams and then Bama makes a run at Coleman.
If that happens, Golesh is already in trouble.
The rumor going around has been that Williams is transferring to TX. Apparently Coleman to Bama is basically already a done deal. Derrick Nix going there sealed it.
Auburn is going to be in a good bit of trouble. They are basically going to have to try to win in the SEC with USF's roster.
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12-29-2025, 01:56 PM
#164

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
That would surprise me. Hopkins doesn't like the bears either. He has pushed every kid he has repped to anywhere but the instate SEC schools.
he's visiting there on the 3rd..........
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12-29-2025, 02:01 PM
#165

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
he's visiting there on the 3rd..........
OM will overpay for him. That's why he's visiting there. We don't really need to overpay for him. We have a lot of depth and talent in the LB room already. We obviously would love to have the kid, but we're not going to overpay for him at a position that we don't need to overpay because of the depth and talent we already have at the position.
I also wouldn't be shocked if Hopkins doesn't try to change the number prior to Saturday. He did that with Hardy last year. OM and him had a number agreed upon and then Hopkins changed the number 48 hours before the visit and said Hardy wasn't coming unless the new number was agreed upon and OM backed off.
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12-29-2025, 03:10 PM
#166

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
OM will overpay for him. That's why he's visiting there. We don't really need to overpay for him. We have a lot of depth and talent in the LB room already. We obviously would love to have the kid, but we're not going to overpay for him at a position that we don't need to overpay because of the depth and talent we already have at the position.
I also wouldn't be shocked if Hopkins doesn't try to change the number prior to Saturday. He did that with Hardy last year. OM and him had a number agreed upon and then Hopkins changed the number 48 hours before the visit and said Hardy wasn't coming unless the new number was agreed upon and OM backed off.
I am hopeful that the current moves we are making on the staff we are working to improve this situation with the “ agents”.
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12-29-2025, 03:40 PM
#167

Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
I am hopeful that the current moves we are making on the staff we are working to improve this situation with the “ agents”.
Probably not with Lawrence Hopkins. We're going to have to overpay for one of his to get in his good graces. He wants his 30%
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12-29-2025, 03:46 PM
#168

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
OM will overpay for him. That's why he's visiting there. We don't really need to overpay for him. We have a lot of depth and talent in the LB room already. We obviously would love to have the kid, but we're not going to overpay for him at a position that we don't need to overpay because of the depth and talent we already have at the position.
I also wouldn't be shocked if Hopkins doesn't try to change the number prior to Saturday. He did that with Hardy last year. OM and him had a number agreed upon and then Hopkins changed the number 48 hours before the visit and said Hardy wasn't coming unless the new number was agreed upon and OM backed off.
Why would they need to overpay for him? They haven't done that in the past. Also, I don't think we can say that we have talent and depth on our defense.
I mean, we gave up a ton of points and yards to practically every team we played with a pulse. I don't know how good the Jones kid is, but they only player on our defense that should have a starting spot locked up is Kelley Jones, assuming he doesn't go pro.
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12-29-2025, 03:56 PM
#169

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
Why would they need to overpay for him? They haven't done that in the past. Also, I don't think we can say that we have talent and depth on our defense.
I mean, we gave up a ton of points and yards to practically every team we played with a pulse. I don't know how good the Jones kid is, but they only player on our defense that should have a starting spot locked up is Kelley Jones, assuming he doesn't go pro.
Tyler Lockhart is going to be in Year 2, Jalen Smith is going to be in Year 2, Derion Gullette will be in Year 2, Zakari Tillman will be in Year 4. That's why you don't overpay for Chris Jones. You don't have to. He can come in and be great depth and competition for the position. But you don't overpay at a position that you're good at when you have glaring issues at both LOS.
OM needs perception wins. That's why they'd overpay. They overpay for perception wins in the portal. Caleb Odom's production didn't match his perception or pay when they got him. Same with Delano Townsend. He started a bunch for them but he wasn't the lockdown lineman it was perceived they were getting. Same with Kutas.
Last edited by StarkVegasSteve; 12-29-2025 at 04:00 PM.
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12-29-2025, 05:54 PM
#170

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Tyler Lockhart is going to be in Year 2, Jalen Smith is going to be in Year 2, Derion Gullette will be in Year 2, Zakari Tillman will be in Year 4. That's why you don't overpay for Chris Jones. You don't have to. He can come in and be great depth and competition for the position. But you don't overpay at a position that you're good at when you have glaring issues at both LOS.
OM needs perception wins. That's why they'd overpay. They overpay for perception wins in the portal. Caleb Odom's production didn't match his perception or pay when they got him. Same with Delano Townsend. He started a bunch for them but he wasn't the lockdown lineman it was perceived they were getting. Same with Kutas.
You think Chris Jones is a perception win?
Whatever they paid Townsend and Kutas was well worth it. Their OL was way better in 2025 than 2024. Definitely better than Jayvin James, Brennan Smith, Bouldin, Carson Lee, Koby Keenum, and Jesse (we barely knew ya) Ramil.
I don't think anyone thought Townsend or Kutas were lockdown anything. Townsend was from UAB I think and Kutas was coming off an injury.
You are also assuming all four of those LB's will be back next year. Only one for sure is Lockhart. I doubt we keep all four to be honest.
I don't know the bears LB situation other than Dottery and Perkins are both juniors and both are expected back.
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12-29-2025, 10:01 PM
#171
Well now. We have another State fan that is more negative than me. At this rate I will not even be in the Top 50 of negative message board fans! Thanks for taking the mantel Hancock.
I actually think we are pretty solid at LB but will probably take at least one LB in the portal to go along with our HS signees.
Everyone keeps iterating it and I?ll do the same. We MUST bring in quality offensive and defensive linemen and we cannot over pay for someone who may have to compete for playing time and not be a plug and play. LB is not dire! CB depth and Dline & Oline depth are major needs.
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12-29-2025, 10:41 PM
#172
I agree. If we can?t win the LOS or at least control it enough to allow our LBs to make plays or our QBs to stay upright and RBs from getting mauled then we are screwed! We need some real positive news in those 2 positions.
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12-30-2025, 12:19 AM
#173
^^^
What he said. Gotta have a line that isn’t going backwards for our LBs to make plays. The backers were never badly out of position and had some nice games. I mean, we don’t have McKinney and E. Thompson back there but they’re a solid group. I wouldn’t be too worried about LB.
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12-30-2025, 05:41 AM
#174
That guy from Temple isn’t going to cut it for sure.
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12-30-2025, 09:03 AM
#175

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
That guy from Temple isn’t going to cut it for sure.
he soft?
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12-30-2025, 09:24 AM
#176

Originally Posted by
Pancho
he soft?
Weak stats...
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12-30-2025, 09:29 AM
#177

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Weak stats...
He's a replacement for Neveah Sanders, and actually had better stats at Temple than Sanders did at NIU. We're getting him cheap to be a 3rd down pass rush guy. You take the guy all day long because it builds depth, he's cheap, and he really wants to be here.
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12-30-2025, 10:48 AM
#178
Senior Member

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
That guy from Temple isn?t going to cut it for sure.
If I?m not mistaking he only played 5 games idk if he got hurt or what
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12-30-2025, 11:07 AM
#179

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
He's a replacement for Neveah Sanders, and actually had better stats at Temple than Sanders did at NIU. We're getting him cheap to be a 3rd down pass rush guy. You take the guy all day long because it builds depth, he's cheap, and he really wants to be here.
If by cheap you mean free - then i'm all for it.
I don't want to waste even a little bit of money on a guy like this, who most likely will have the same impact as Neveah Sanders. I want to take the money we spent on Sanders, Red Hibbler, Deonte Anderson, Trevion Williams and the other Hibbler and go sign one real DL. Go get Amaris Williams from AU. He has a huge upside. I don't want to spend 50-75K here and there and all of a sudden we have a deep untalented team.
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12-30-2025, 11:18 AM
#180

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
If by cheap you mean free - then i'm all for it.
I don't want to waste even a little bit of money on a guy like this, who most likely will have the same impact as Neveah Sanders. I want to take the money we spent on Sanders, Red Hibbler, Deonte Anderson, Trevion Williams and the other Hibbler and go sign one real DL. Go get Amaris Williams from AU. He has a huge upside. I don't want to spend 50-75K here and there and all of a sudden we have a deep untalented team.
I’m not sure why anybody would spend money on these types of players especially this early. Go spend your money on legit players first. Once you got those, you can spend money on these depth pieces. You can get these types of players on the very last hours of the portal.
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