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Originally Posted by
confucius say
You do understand that we should expect more from people we pay hundreds of thousands/millions of dollars to do the job than we do of ourselves, right? I mean, you surely would expect more of your heart surgeon than me when it comes to heart surgery.
I wouldn't compare this BS to anything serious as ones health.
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Originally Posted by
Pancho
I wouldn't compare this BS to anything serious as ones health.
Use whatever analogy you want. We expect people who get paid exorbitant amounts of money to do their job to be better at said job than a layman.
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Originally Posted by
MBDawg601
Exactly, but saying that bringing in LK, one of the highest rated QB prospects in miss state history was a mistake is idiotic. Dude can play, and will likely play somewhere. We have a history of QBs transferring out and becoming stars elsewhere.
It's not about whether he can play. It's about whether we have him above KT. We don't.
And I'm drawing a blank, what history of QBs have we had transfer out who went on to be stars elsewhere? Not saying you're wrong, I just can't recall them.
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
It's 💯 on point. Our staff whiffed on making the call that KT would be the clear number 2 ahead of LK in 2025 before both signed. Had they been able to see that prior to them signing they would not have spent substantial money on a third string QB in LK. They whiffed and wasted money, plain and simple.
And what I know that is true is that our staff determined by Game 1 that KT was the number 2 ahead of LK. That is an uncontested fact. And the fact that our staff couldn't see that prior to signing both resulted in us overpaying a third string QB in LK. The only real question here is whether that mistake by our staff is excusable. It may be. But it was still a mistake, which is my only point.
There is no way that anyone could evaluate kt in 3A in Mississippi and hawk at FSU and not offer Hawk. If thats the point then you have no idea what you?re bitching about and are just here to bitch.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Our entire QB room was about 1.5MM. Most of the SEC spent that for their starter by himself. We spent very little compared to the rest of the SEC. No idea why you guys are freaking out about this. Hindsight is 20/20
Probably bc we have to do things differently to be successful. That might mean having a trash backup so we can afford a better starting LT.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Probably bc we have to do things differently to be successful. That might mean having a trash backup so we can afford a better starting LT.
One thing I would have done is bring in Loadholt sooner than we did. That messed us up this year.
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Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
There is no way that anyone could evaluate kt in 3A in Mississippi and hawk at FSU and not offer Hawk. If thats the point then you have no idea what you?re bitching about and are just here to bitch.
you have him pegged
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Ah come on guys, all Confucius is asking for is for the staff to accurately predict the future. What?s so hard about that?
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Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
There is no way that anyone could evaluate kt in 3A in Mississippi and hawk at FSU and not offer Hawk. If thats the point then you have no idea what you?re bitching about and are just here to bitch.
I concur. KT was injured in his single start. Couldn’t imagine us having a JC QB and if Blake and him had gone down. Then he would want Lebby fired for not having LK.
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Chromeanhawk should get a meeting with Dan Mullen
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
Exactly. Which is why you don't spend significant money on a third string qb. It was a mistake. And I'm a lebby guy. To a fault honestly.
But we missed there and wasted money.
Agree wasted money and opportunity.
But ah, here we are where every team has buyers remorse over overpaying for players that are not delivering. I miss the days where players played because they wanted to for the school they chose. Heck, UGA even sued a player over it.
What a crap show NCAA football has become.
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I doubt he would have signed for $50 but maybe confucious is correct. We'd sure save cash
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Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
There is no way that anyone could evaluate kt in 3A in Mississippi and hawk at FSU and not offer Hawk. If thats the point then you have no idea what you?re bitching about and are just here to bitch.
If that first sentence is true then we need different people evaluating. At a minimum our staff should know they would be close enough to each other that throwing a bag at LK is unnecessary.
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Originally Posted by
Pancho
you have him pegged
If you look at my posts I'm actually one who defends our staff too much. To a fault tbh.
Yall are just salty because you know I'm right that LK was wasted money. Maybe it was an excusable mistake, but it was clearly a mistake. Even the great Steve Robertson agrees.
Last edited by confucius say; 12-20-2025 at 08:04 AM.
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Originally Posted by
DawgFromOxford
Ah come on guys, all Confucius is asking for is for the staff to accurately predict the future. What?s so hard about that?
That would be nice. More to the point though, I'm asking us to acknowledge that we made a mistake and learn from said mistake so as to try to prevent said mistake from happening again. People on here can't even admit that LK was wasted money.
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
That would be nice. More to the point though, I'm asking us to acknowledge that we made a mistake and learn from said mistake so as to try to prevent said mistake from happening again. People on here can't even admit that LK was wasted money.
1. I don?t know how much we paid LK so if you know that figure feel free to educate me.
2. I?m not going to fault the staff for having an insurance plan for the most important position. It?s like saying home insurance is a waste of money. Could I have more money in my 401k if I didn?t pay for it? absolutely. But in the worst case scenario (aka Shapen and Taylor both go down) I want it in place.
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
It's not about whether he can play. It's about whether we have him above KT. We don't.
And I'm drawing a blank, what history of QBs have we had transfer out who went on to be stars elsewhere? Not saying you're wrong, I just can't recall them.
I exaggerated a bit. Not quite a history, but Sawyer Robertson was who I was referring to. Dude had a great year at Baylor and saw the field at DWS when he ran out of the tunnel and during time outs when he handed Will a towel. Doesn’t mean he was terrible at Ms State, but never got his shot.
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
If that first sentence is true then we need different people evaluating. At a minimum our staff should know they would be close enough to each other that throwing a bag at LK is unnecessary.
If you had any idea what you were talking about you would understand how ignorant this sounds and you would be embarrassed. But you have no clue and just want to bitch. Done here and with you into the air lock you go. For everyone else, this is the kind of clown that holds us down, he and his ilk are exactly why we can’t have nice things. Screaming at the sky about inane nonsense over and over again is just tiresome.
Last edited by Coursesuper; 12-20-2025 at 10:34 AM.
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Originally Posted by
confucius say
If that first sentence is true then we need different people evaluating. At a minimum our staff should know they would be close enough to each other that throwing a bag at LK is unnecessary.
I get your point. But the nfl misses on qb every single draft. It's hard. Yet you're trying to make everyone believe how easy this was. At noxubee. It isn't and it wasn't. We couldn't sit and go w just shapen and KT. And crap, KT still has a ton to prove. I think he gets there. But it's a process.
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12-20-2025, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
I get your point. But the nfl misses on qb every single draft. It's hard. Yet you're trying to make everyone believe how easy this was. At noxubee. It isn't and it wasn't. We couldn't sit and go w just shapen and KT. And crap, KT still has a ton to prove. I think he gets there. But it's a process.
It is hard. No doubt. Which is why I said it can be seen as an excusable mistake. But a mistake nonetheless.
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