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12-08-2025, 09:34 PM
#161

Originally Posted by
Coach34
and thats what I keep screaming. Way to much worrying about coaches and not enough about talent. Buying talent and evaluations will decide us moving forward
Who has he recruited? Kelley Jones is not his. That’s not his.
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12-08-2025, 09:35 PM
#162
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12-08-2025, 09:35 PM
#163
It ain't Briles. ESPN ticker to South Carolina
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12-08-2025, 09:37 PM
#164

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
1. We have consistently heard the same on Holocek and the potential OC spot. If it is Kendall, and I get slightly more confident in that by the day, then I would imagine they will wait until after AT LEAST TCU?s bowl game on the 30th til an announcement is made. Although Steve could try to ruin it like last time and get a nice raise for Kendall somewhere.
2. Derrick Nix has gained a lot of traction since around lunch with the people I have spoken with in regards to the WR opening. He would be a huge get for Lebby and a MASSIVE upgrade over Bumphis.
3. Pernell is gaining a lot of steam but I would not call that done quite yet. I do still think it gets done and he is the DL coach next year. Brock is basically confirmed as the new LB coach. Jett will be a GA.
4. The only name I have heard on the CB job with any type of seriousness has been Pat Surtain Jr. I know Arnett really liked him at FSU. He also would keep that Miami pipeline for us in recruiting at that position. I do still think it is possible that Bell stays as well.
Then I got a ESPN notification saying that Briles is finalizing a deal with South Carolina. Haha
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12-08-2025, 09:37 PM
#165

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
1. We have consistently heard the same on Holocek and the potential OC spot. If it is Kendall, and I get slightly more confident in that by the day, then I would imagine they will wait until after AT LEAST TCU’s bowl game on the 30th til an announcement is made. Although Steve could try to ruin it like last time and get a nice raise for Kendall somewhere.
2. Derrick Nix has gained a lot of traction since around lunch with the people I have spoken with in regards to the WR opening. He would be a huge get for Lebby and a MASSIVE upgrade over Bumphis.
3. Pernell is gaining a lot of steam but I would not call that done quite yet. I do still think it gets done and he is the DL coach next year. Brock is basically confirmed as the new LB coach. Jett will be a GA.
4. The only name I have heard on the CB job with any type of seriousness has been Pat Surtain Jr. I know Arnett really liked him at FSU. He also would keep that Miami pipeline for us in recruiting at that position. I do still think it is possible that Bell stays as well.
1. That's my cryptic read into it. Part of us being tight lipped. Edit - well I'm wrong. So much for wishcasting myself smh.
2. Feels weird compared to the rest of these coaching searches how much his name exploded. But then again the WR coach news was mostly hush hush "known but don't say anything" until it started leaking around before. Read into why that might be if you will.
3. Fair on Pernell - I'm basically putting my hope on it. Brock as LB feels done-ish, and yea I don't have a spot for Jett as a GA to roll on but he's hopefully a great teacher because he ain't got talent but he could play. Shows that teaching makes a difference.
4. As we're seeing with Safeties coach - we aren't getting our pick of the litter. And 34 pointed out the big thing. SEC player vs. non-SEC player. His style of coaching and what we'll ask of corners on an island to do will work... if they are talented freaking corners. So can coach the ones who belong at this level, burnt toast however is just burnt toast no matter the coach. Optics are going to be brutal if Bell is retained / Bumphis leaves. But - Lebby should just have one more year to prove it, right? So does this decision make it any hotter of a seat (I know we think the 3 year DC contract means something against that but how much is it to buyout after next year?)
"Once the game starts, it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, July 10th, 2010
"No one ever said it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, June 12th, 2011
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12-08-2025, 09:43 PM
#166

Originally Posted by
Coach34
and thats what I keep screaming. Way to much worrying about coaches and not enough about talent. Buying talent and evaluations will decide us moving forward
It’s tough to scheme around no talent, the egg bowl should have been evidence enough, they picked on anyone not named Jones every time we got singled up and it paid off.
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12-08-2025, 09:45 PM
#167

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
Who has he recruited? Kelley Jones is not his. That’s not his.
thats my point. Its about the talent we bring in. We got to spend. Who we have as coaches dont matter to me. Just like I wont know very many of the names of our players.
Alot of shit just doesnt matter anymore. Its just alot of minutia and dolla bills. Car salesman shit
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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12-08-2025, 09:47 PM
#168
Grabbing a backup CB from Kennesaw State and a Memphis player in the portal will do it to you on most days.
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12-08-2025, 10:16 PM
#169
Welp….there goes Briles. Cross that one off the list.
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12-08-2025, 10:18 PM
#170

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Welp….there goes Briles. Cross that one off the list.
So what? Never for a second thought it was happening. Lebbo is going to run the O.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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12-08-2025, 11:05 PM
#171

Originally Posted by
Coach34
thats my point. Its about the talent we bring in. We got to spend. Who we have as coaches dont matter to me. Just like I wont know very many of the names of our players.
Alot of shit just doesnt matter anymore. Its just alot of minutia and dolla bills. Car salesman shit
Of course it matters. Money is even on both sides a lot of the time and we have coaches that have been losing those type battles regularly. Now a lot of that is because we went 2-10 and no one with other options would choose to come here unless we vastly overspent, but recruiting definitely still matters. Acting like teams are just going to the grocery store and picking out ingredients instead of recruiting is not true most of the time. There are instances of that for sure but we are largely just getting our a$$es whipped in the living room.
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12-08-2025, 11:28 PM
#172
Or... Is Jones just that good? I played with 2 guys who played in the MLB. 1 still is and has been for 8+ years now. And let me tell you that when it's God given... you don't have to be coached. These 2 guys were the most "no practice" guys on the team, but they just had God given ability to play the game. One of them had D-1 offers in all 3 sports. Actually committed to Mississippi State in those 3 sports, Billy Hamilton. And he will tell you to this day that he wish he would have practiced harder at the start of his MLB career. Cause he sure didn't practice hard until about 4 years in. He had things you can't teach.
I think Kelly is just a freak. God has blessed him with the ability to line up, don't even stretch, and probably cover anybody. So I wouldn't bet my coaching career on 1 guy being an absolute stud and hanging on to Bell if I'm Lebby. But that's just my take on it. He has all the things you can't teach. Speed, length, reaction, burst, etc. You're not gonna go buy many Kelly Jones in the portal cause there isn't any.
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12-08-2025, 11:59 PM
#173

Originally Posted by
Maroon Glasses
Or... Is Jones just that good? I played with 2 guys who played in the MLB. 1 still is and has been for 8+ years now. And let me tell you that when it's God given... you don't have to be coached. These 2 guys were the most "no practice" guys on the team, but they just had God given ability to play the game. One of them had D-1 offers in all 3 sports. Actually committed to Mississippi State in those 3 sports, Billy Hamilton. And he will tell you to this day that he wish he would have practiced harder at the start of his MLB career. Cause he sure didn't practice hard until about 4 years in. He had things you can't teach.
I think Kelly is just a freak. God has blessed him with the ability to line up, don't even stretch, and probably cover anybody. So I wouldn't bet my coaching career on 1 guy being an absolute stud and hanging on to Bell if I'm Lebby. But that's just my take on it. He has all the things you can't teach. Speed, length, reaction, burst, etc. You're not gonna go buy many Kelly Jones in the portal cause there isn't any.
Yet he was only a 3*... he developed late in year 2. He's steadily gotten better since being on campus.
"Once the game starts, it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, July 10th, 2010
"No one ever said it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, June 12th, 2011
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12-09-2025, 12:31 AM
#174

Originally Posted by
Tater
Yet he was only a 3*... he developed late in year 2. He's steadily gotten better since being on campus.
True. Brumfield was also a 3 star. Most of our CB's are. But they aren't 6'4 with the ++athletic ability Jones has. But, out of high school they were dudes. It's just hard for me to believe that none of them have the talent to play at this level. I think it's more on the development side but by no means am I a coach or evaluator. Thats why Im just a fan lol
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12-09-2025, 01:00 AM
#175

Originally Posted by
Maroon Glasses
Or... Is Jones just that good? I played with 2 guys who played in the MLB. 1 still is and has been for 8+ years now. And let me tell you that when it's God given... you don't have to be coached. These 2 guys were the most "no practice" guys on the team, but they just had God given ability to play the game. One of them had D-1 offers in all 3 sports. Actually committed to Mississippi State in those 3 sports, Billy Hamilton. And he will tell you to this day that he wish he would have practiced harder at the start of his MLB career. Cause he sure didn't practice hard until about 4 years in. He had things you can't teach.
I think Kelly is just a freak. God has blessed him with the ability to line up, don't even stretch, and probably cover anybody. So I wouldn't bet my coaching career on 1 guy being an absolute stud and hanging on to Bell if I'm Lebby. But that's just my take on it. He has all the things you can't teach. Speed, length, reaction, burst, etc. You're not gonna go buy many Kelly Jones in the portal cause there isn't any.
I think he was a HS QB. Seems like a lot of good CBs have started there
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12-09-2025, 01:34 AM
#176
Jimmy's & Joe's definitely make the difference with any coach. However, if Bump was let go and didn't leave on his own Lebby just made another bone head decision.
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12-09-2025, 02:31 AM
#177

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Jimmy's & Joe's definitely make the difference with any coach. However, if Bump was let go and didn't leave on his own Lebby just made another bone head decision.
If Lebby told him to not leak team sensitive info to MSU fan site writers and he did after being warned not to Lebby had no choice.
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12-09-2025, 07:40 AM
#178
The idea of Briles was great. I do not believe he is a better play caller than Jeff Lebby, but he is the only coach that I believe Jeff would give up play calling to get. It?s far more likely though that Jeff is dead against giving up play calling, and he shouldn?t give up play calling. His play calling is why he was hired, and we are in the era of play calling head coaches. Just about every offensive minded head coach calls his own plays.
Dan Mullen was never going to give up play calling either.
So, if Holocek is getting replaced, it will likely be by someone who knows the scheme and had head coaching experience to give Jeff a guy to lean on (Philip Montgomery) or an up and comer who wants the title and wants to learn from Jeff Lebby (Kevin Decker or someone like that).
At WR coach, Steve Spurrier Jr would be an excellent choice.
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12-09-2025, 08:14 AM
#179

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
If Lebby told him to not leak team sensitive info to MSU fan site writers and he did after being warned not to Lebby had no choice.
Yeah, pretty simple. Hadad was on the radio yesterday trying to get ahead of any talk of him being the one that Bumphis had given any information too; assuming those rumors are true.
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12-09-2025, 08:14 AM
#180

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
If Lebby told him to not leak team sensitive info to MSU fan site writers and he did after being warned not to Lebby had no choice.
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