Arnett back in at DC.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Shoop.

Todd, you and I could have called plays for that 18 defense. His 19 defense SUCKED. He was on par, and honestly probably a little worse, than Arnett. Everyone has this weird idea that Shoop was the architect of this incredible defense. He was not. Jeffrey Simmons and Montez Sweat on the same D Line would have made Coleman Hutzler look like a great D coordinator.

For reference, we went from #2 in 18 in defense to #73 in 19. Now, I do not think Shoop was this elite DC and regressed 71 spots in one year. The more obvious answer is that he fielded top 75 defenses most years and he had an outlier year where he was gifted 3 first round picks. His TN defense were not very good either. Neither of them were inside the top 70. Now he was really good at Penn State. So that tends to tell me that he is pretty good when he has elite talent, but when he does not, he is below average.

Now, if you know me, you know, I do not like Zach Arnett. I do not think he is an elite D coordinator. But I do know that his teams are gonna be aggressive and that can cause turnovers. I also know that he can make bad defenses look respectable and good defenses look pretty damn good.

[Coursesuper]

We know what we are getting. A proven DC. Pressure on the QB will return and the Blitz is back.

We had better upgrade fast on the back end to run that defense. They are all on an island a lot. And we better get some men up front quick.

[Homedawg]

I think it shows how hard it is for us to attract established coordinators/coaches.

Ding ding ding. This man gets it. Give him a trophy!!!

[Todd4State]

We know what we are getting. A proven DC. Pressure on the QB will return and the Blitz is back.

And a proven liar who got us into this mess.

[Coursesuper]

Ding ding ding. This man gets it. Give him a trophy!!!

Exactly.

[Coursesuper]

And a proven liar who got us into this mess.

You can ultimately thank a bunch of boosters for that. These wounds are all self inflicted. We missed our foot and shot ourselves in the dick.

[Todd4State]

Fans need to realize no rising DC was coming here to get shown the door after 1 season. Our options were very limited. Throw the same DC numbers with someone else?s name and we would be very happy right now.

We can do better than this. Come on. Croom hired a better DC than this. Oh the guy hasn't coached defense in two years if you count his disaster being a head coach.

[CadaverDawg]

You never know how things will turn out, but this is a home run hire for us in the situation we're currently in. Grand slam? No. Home run, absolutely.
Arnett had our Defense consistently in the Top 5 of the SEC, and that was with them on the field all freaking game under Leach's offense. Now you combine Arnett's defense with Lebby's desire to run the ball more and control the ball a little....it could be a wonderful scenario.

Not to mention, Arnett's defenses took the ball away. Imagine giving this offense with Taylor running it more chances every game.

Again, I'm not saying it couldn't also go south...but I'd say there is a much better chance of it working than not. Especially compared to the garbage pile Hutzler put on the field

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

**** this and **** Arnett.

Agree

[msstate7]

Great move.

[Todd4State]

You can ultimately thank a bunch of boosters for that. These wounds are all self inflicted. We missed our foot and shot ourselves in the dick.

He was part of it. He had a chance to do the right thing. He didn't. Arnett should not come back. He's an awful human being. He isn't even that good of a coach and he can't recruit.

This is a horrible decision by Lebby.

[Todd4State]

You never know how things will turn out, but this is a home run hire for us in the situation we're currently in. Grand slam? No. Home run, absolutely.
Arnett had our Defense consistently in the Top 5 of the SEC, and that was with them on the field all freaking game under Leach's offense. Now you combine Arnett's defense with Lebby's desire to run the ball more and control the ball a little....it could be a wonderful scenario.

Not to mention, Arnett's defenses took the ball away. Imagine giving this offense with Taylor running it more chances every game.

Again, I'm not saying it couldn't also go south...but I'd say there is a much better chance of it working than not. Especially compared to the garbage pile Hutzler put on the field

This is a swing and a miss. Big time miss.

[Todd4State]

Todd, you and I could have called plays for that 18 defense. His 19 defense SUCKED. He was on par, and honestly probably a little worse, than Arnett. Everyone has this weird idea that Shoop was the architect of this incredible defense. He was not. Jeffrey Simmons and Montez Sweat on the same D Line would have made Coleman Hutzler look like a great D coordinator.

For reference, we went from #2 in 18 in defense to #73 in 19. Now, I do not think Shoop was this elite DC and regressed 71 spots in one year. The more obvious answer is that he fielded top 75 defenses most years and he had an outlier year where he was gifted 3 first round picks. His TN defense were not very good either. Neither of them were inside the top 70. Now he was really good at Penn State. So that tends to tell me that he is pretty good when he has elite talent, but when he does not, he is below average.

Now, if you know me, you know, I do not like Zach Arnett. I do not think he is an elite D coordinator. But I do know that his teams are gonna be aggressive and that can cause turnovers. I also know that he can make bad defenses look respectable and good defenses look pretty damn good.

Maybe Bookie will get to kick his ass now.

[CadaverDawg]

He was part of it. He had a chance to do the right thing. He didn't. Arnett should not come back. He's an awful human being. He isn't even that good of a coach and he can't recruit.

This is a horrible decision by Lebby.

Tell us how you really feel, Todd. Ha

Is Beard a bad human being? What about Kiffin? Guess you wouldn't take them either then.

For a guy that was anti Croom and Moorhead, you just made a very pro Croom and Moorhead comment. We hiring "good guys", or do you want to win games? Usually you're on the side of winning games, so I'm surprised to hear you say that.

Such an awful guy that Ole Miss hired him, Mullen hired him, and we've hired him twice.

[CadaverDawg]

This is a swing and a miss. Big time miss.

With all due respect, you have no clue.

[Quaoarsking]

If things go South, he can take Lebby to Wendy's with him.

[Todd4State]

Tell us how you really feel, Todd. Ha

Is Beard a bad human being? What about Kiffin? Guess you wouldn't take them either then.

For a guy that was anti Croom and Moorhead, you just made a very pro Croom and Moorhead comment. We hiring "good guys", or do you want to win games? Usually you're on the side of winning games, so I'm surprised to hear you say that.

It's a bit more personal with Arnett. It's one thing to give the guy that robbed someone else's house a second chance and it's another to give the guy that robbed your house a second chance.

[Todd4State]

With all due respect, you have no clue.

No I do have a clue. Say whatever you want to make yourself feel better this is a horseshit move by Lebby.

[CadaverDawg]

If things go South, he can take Lebby to Wendy's with him.

Exactly. What do we have to lose with this hire? He's probably the best we could possibly ask for with Lebby on a warm seat. Not sure what our fans expect

[Todd4State]

Exactly. What do we have to lose with this hire? He's probably the best we could possibly ask for with Lebby on a warm seat. Not sure what our fans expect

Oh. Games. Recruits. Fan Support. Other than that we should be fine.