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11-22-2025, 11:28 AM
#521
Gonna get some eye rolls...
I would get Bob Stoops for a good Cost and then Let him hire high quality assistants. Let BS be the GM of Football.
That's if I were an AD looking for a coach. BS is the Walmart Saban. But probably neither guy wants to run a program anymore.
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11-22-2025, 11:38 AM
#522
Hogs 247 moderator floating Dabo as a rumor he is hearing. But I wonder if that is just a distraction for the weekend away from whoever the real coach is.
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11-22-2025, 12:37 PM
#523

Originally Posted by
Brobi-wan
Lebby won?t be fired, so who cares? It?s fine if y?all don?t like him. Start a thread for it. This conversation is in every thread atm
Killing every thread. Like little Chatty Cathy dolls that won't shut the 17 up.
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11-22-2025, 12:47 PM
#524

Originally Posted by
Maroon Glasses
Jomo had way more talent than Lebby has at every position on defense and O Line and that's not even debatable. I think we all can agree there. Lebby has done more with less. I agree with most on here.. Lebby's and Jomo's in game decision making isn't separated by much. Lebby has done way more with less tho, imo. His offense is 10x better than Jomo.
Jomo sucked. As of now, I give the edge to Lebby. I would like to see Lebby with the 2018 team and see how it went.
Jomo turned a 10-win team into 8 imo.
Lebby still has a game left, but so far, I feel like he's turned a 6-7 win team into 5.
And if you come back with preseason win totals this season, keep in mind that our win total was 8.5 in 2018 for Moorhead's first season
https://247sports.com/contentgallery...130969/#917062
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11-22-2025, 12:56 PM
#525

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Jomo turned a 10-win team into 8 imo.
Lebby still has a game left, but so far, I feel like he's turned a 6-7 win team into 5.
And if you come back with preseason win totals this season, keep in mind that our win total was 8.5 in 2018 for Moorhead's first season
https://247sports.com/contentgallery...130969/#917062
So you are saying JMo under performed by half a game and Lebby over performed by 1.5 games with one more game to be played
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11-22-2025, 12:58 PM
#526

Originally Posted by
DEDawg
So you are saying JMo under performed by half a game and Lebby over performed by 1.5 games with one more game to be played
No, I'm saying preseason win totals is a horrible way to judge a coach. That 2018 team was a 10-win team, but Joe sucks
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11-22-2025, 01:01 PM
#527

Originally Posted by
DEDawg
So you are saying JMo under performed by half a game and Lebby over performed by 1.5 games with one more game to be played
Comparing those two is like trying to compare apples to gourds.
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11-22-2025, 01:03 PM
#528

Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
Comparing those two is like trying to compare apples to gourds.
They both suck, but I do think Lebby sucks less
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11-22-2025, 01:18 PM
#529

Originally Posted by
msstate7
They both suck, but I do think Lebby sucks less
This post is made with zero context, per usual. The only thing that these situations have in common is MSU football. Please, Mr 800 k post count, just save it. We all know where you fall and trust me this post is really not a reply to you.
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11-22-2025, 01:25 PM
#530

Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
This post is made with zero context, per usual. The only thing that these situations have in common is MSU football. Please, Mr 800 k post count, just save it. We all know where you fall and trust me this post is really not a reply to you.
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, but trust me, it's nothing personal with you. I'm discussing the topic, while you and your minions always go straight to attacking the poster(s). Guess that makes sense when you have nothing to support your opinion.
Last edited by msstate7; 11-22-2025 at 01:31 PM.
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11-22-2025, 01:35 PM
#531
Did anyone see what Coach Saban said about changing the recruiting schedules to match academic schedules on Gameday? Also brought up the point that the NCAA should be like the NFL and not allow coaches to negotiate with other teams until the season ends. His main argument was doing it for the players so they don't have to worry about all the outside noise during the season.
Thoughts?
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11-22-2025, 01:39 PM
#532

Originally Posted by
msstate7
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings
Ha, I’m a Marine and a 30 year golfer course super you couldn’t hurt my feelings on the hurtingest day of the year with an electrified hurting machine.
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11-22-2025, 01:41 PM
#533

Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
Ha, I’m a Marine and a 30 year golfer course super you couldn’t hurt my feelings on the hurtingest day of the year with an electrified hurting machine.
Good deal.
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11-22-2025, 01:43 PM
#534

Originally Posted by
msstate7
No, I'm saying preseason win totals is a horrible way to judge a coach. That 2018 team was a 10-win team, but Joe sucks
Especially when it doesn't fit your narrative.
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11-22-2025, 01:44 PM
#535

Originally Posted by
Turfdawg67
Killing every thread. Like little Chatty Cathy dolls that won't shut the 17 up.
Only coaching changes we should be discussing are on the defensive side of the ball at MSU.
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11-22-2025, 01:46 PM
#536

Originally Posted by
msstate7
No, I'm saying preseason win totals is a horrible way to judge a coach. That 2018 team was a 10-win team, but Joe sucks
but the coach is factored into win numbers so that doesn't make sense. Vegas judges the coach as part of the overall totals and usually are pretty close. Vegas knew nothing about JMo so docked us a game for that (they were right - JMo cost us 2). It would have been 9.5 if Dan stayed. They couldn't make a determination on Lebby because he was working with the worst P4 roster last year and gave us 3.5.
If Saban was our coach in 2018 then our win total would have been 10.5.
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11-22-2025, 01:47 PM
#537

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Especially when it doesn't fit your narrative.
What if I told you Vegas sets win totals on public perception, not what they think the win total will actually be?
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11-22-2025, 01:48 PM
#538

Originally Posted by
Maroon Glasses
Did anyone see what Coach Saban said about changing the recruiting schedules to match academic schedules on Gameday? Also brought up the point that the NCAA should be like the NFL and not allow coaches to negotiate with other teams until the season ends. His main argument was doing it for the players so they don't have to worry about all the outside noise during the season.
Thoughts?
Would have some good/some bad consequences like everything else. If you move the recruiting calendar and all of that back players wouldn't be able to enroll in December and participate in bowl practice. Players still have the option to sign in February as it is. If they're concerned about coaching changes that is still an option for them.
Personally if a coach wants to leave they're going to be doing everything under the table anyway and I would rather them go ahead and leave ASAP rather than just stay around.
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11-22-2025, 01:49 PM
#539

Originally Posted by
DEDawg
but the coach is factored into win numbers so that doesn't make sense. Vegas judges the coach as part of the overall totals and usually are pretty close. Vegas knew nothing about JMo so docked us a game for that (they were right - JMo cost us 2). It would have been 9.5 if Dan stayed. They couldn't make a determination on Lebby because he was working with the worst P4 roster last year and gave us 3.5.
If Saban was our coach in 2018 then our win total would have been 10.5.
Vegas sets the win total on what avg Joe thinks a win total will be to get action on both sides. They aren't saying what they think a team will actually win
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11-22-2025, 01:50 PM
#540

Originally Posted by
msstate7
What if I told you Vegas sets win totals on public perception, not what they think the win total will actually be?
Then that means we are still better in the eyes of everyone that follows college football fans except for a few of our dumbass fans like you.
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