The Vast Difference Between 6-6 & 5-7 - MSU Football 2025

[HoopsDawg]

This is true. I was very pro Lebby until the Mizz game. I'm not saying fire him or anything like that. It just made me realize he may not be the guy. But I hope he is.

Why would you ever think we had a shot on the road at Mizzou with their LOS advantage.

[Maroon Glasses]

Why would you ever think we had a shot on the road at Mizzou with their LOS advantage.

I didn't. Just like I didn't think we initially had shot against Tenn, Texas, Or Georgia. It's just the way the games were coached. Texas, Florida, and Missouri games has very questionable coaching decisions and I will just leave it at that. Some will argue it was jimmy's and Joe's that lost the games. Was we outmatched? On paper, yes. But I think coaching decisions lost those games and that's my opinion. Georgia is a different story. We had no shot in that one. Mizz- Outmatched but once again.. in the game. And coaching decisions took us out in my opinion.

Lebby had us in those games which is why I'm not one screaming to fire him. But that doesn't mean he didn't make costly decisions during those games.. both can be true. So can being outmatched which is also true.

[HoopsDawg]

I didn't. Just like I didn't think we initially had shot against Tenn, Texas, Or Georgia. It's just the way the games were coached. Texas, Florida, and Missouri games has very questionable coaching decisions and I will just leave it at that. Some will argue it was jimmy's and Joe's that lost the games. Was we outmatched? On paper, yes. But I think coaching decisions lost those games and that's my opinion. Georgia is a different story. We had no shot in that one. Mizz- Outmatched but once again.. in the game. And coaching decisions took us out in my opinion.

Lebby had us in those games which is why I'm not one screaming to fire him. But that doesn't mean he didn't make costly decisions during those games.. both can be true. So can being outmatched which is also true.

We gave up 300 yards to a RB. I came on this board and people were blaming Shapen and Lebby. Twilight Zone.

[Quaoarsking]

We gave up 300 yards to a RB. I came on this board and people were blaming Shapen and Lebby. Twilight Zone.

Lebby is responsible for everything the football team does, good or bad.

[Maroon Glasses]

We gave up 300 yards to a RB. I came on this board and people were blaming Shapen and Lebby. Twilight Zone.

We did give up 300. But going 3 and out consistently doesn't help that situation. Bad O Line play leads to bad QB play to a not so mobile QB. 7 straight plays inside the red zone and then a botched field goal doesn't help either side. Plus the offense already works fast so our 3 and outs kill our defense. On top of that defensive front sucks. They really suck when they can't breathe or get water.

I'm not in the twilight zone. I agree with everything you say except I also believe Lebby's decision making hasn't been beneficial to the W-L record. He has had us in those games which is awesome. Just my side of things.. not trying to poop on anyone.

[Jacknut]

1) Lebby is not going anywhere
2) Ole Miss is going to squash us like a bug

[msstate7]

Lebby is responsible for everything the football team does, good or bad.

Amazing he can't see this. When the team is competitive, it's all Lebby. When we get throttled, don't look at Lebby!

[Goldendawg]

Amazing he can't see this. When the team is competitive, it's all Lebby. When we get throttled, don't look at Lebby!

He finally took some responsibility for our issues in his press conference this week, free Q and A article on genespage. He, like all coaches these days is excellent at "CoachSpeak". Is this a PR type class that they teach for aspiring coaches in their college undergrad classes these days.

[HoopsDawg]

Lebby is responsible for everything the football team does, good or bad.

Its Year 2. Good case its Year 1.

[R2Dawg]

We gave up 300 yards to a RB. I came on this board and people were blaming Shapen and Lebby. Twilight Zone.

You do realize that the D gave up right? We played good D all year till last two games and watching it is sooooo obvious most players have quit on D. Watching our O and coaching will do that to you.

[HoopsDawg]

You do realize that the D gave up right? We played good D all year till last two games and watching it is sooooo obvious most players have quit on D. Watching our O and coaching will do that to you.

#0 and #2 being out didn?t help. Lebby has done a great job of keeping the players engaged. Thats one of the reasons I still believe in him.

[Coach34]

You do realize that the D gave up right? We played good D all year till last two games and watching it is sooooo obvious most players have quit on D. Watching our O and coaching will do that to you.

Thats just dumb

We average 31.5 PPG this season. Thats the 3rd highest for us in the last 10 years and a top 10 in school history total. For scale- 32 PPG is best in the last 10 years

Some of you idiots baffle me. We are watching one of schools best offenses in history and we got people acting like it's the Croom Show out there. It is the Twilight Zone

[Quaoarsking]

Thats just dumb

We average 31.5 PPG this season. Thats the 3rd highest for us in the last 10 years and a top 10 in school history total. For scale- 32 PPG is best in the last 10 years

Some of you idiots baffle me. We are watching one of schools best offenses in history and we got people acting like it's the Croom Show out there. It is the Twilight Zone

Well now you know how I felt when people put down our offense in 2021, which was the 3rd best in school history and #1 outside of Dak.

[Activated Alpha]

The Mizz game solidified my thoughts on Lebby is not a good HC. Who calls 7 straight QB runs in a row? And do not tell me, well that could have been Shapen doing some of those. **** that, you tell your player to hand it off to the RB no matter what. Stop running the damn ball yourself.

Also, I am seeing a trend in the same people who adamantly defended Arnett, when it was painfully obvious that he was not fit to be a HC let alone an SEC HC, do the same with Lebby. Has he improved on a 2 win season? Sure, but pretty sure Leach?s tombstone could do the same.

[Maroon Glasses]

The Mizz game solidified my thoughts on Lebby is not a good HC. Who calls 7 straight QB runs in a row? And do not tell me, well that could have been Shapen doing some of those. **** that, you tell your player to hand it off to the RB no matter what. Stop running the damn ball yourself.

Also, I am seeing a trend in the same people who adamantly defended Arnett, when it was painfully obvious that he was not fit to be a HC let alone an SEC HC, do the same with Lebby. Has he improved on a 2 win season? Sure, but pretty sure Leach?s tombstone could do the same.

The Missouri game was a very bad coached game.. Last Saturday I would have been okay with Lebby getting fired right then after I advocatedfor patience. I've cooled off since then and I really hope he gets us turned around. He does have a lot of good things about him but also has some bad. Unfortunately the bad is the difference between winning and losing. If someone says the Mizz game wasn't poorly coached then there is no point in arguing with them. I'm pulling for him to get us an Egg Bowl win and have some big wins in the portal and recruiting.

[Activated Alpha]

The Missouri game was a very bad coached game.. Last Saturday I would have been okay with Lebby getting fired right then after I advocatedfor patience. I've cooled off since then and I really hope he gets us turned around. He does have a lot of good things about him but also has some bad. Unfortunately the bad is the difference between winning and losing. If someone says the Mizz game wasn't poorly coached then there is no point in arguing with them. I'm pulling for him to get us an Egg Bowl win and have some big wins in the portal and recruiting.

I hope so too, but not sure if I can see Lebby doing that. I agree that he gets one more year no matter what because this is a terrible year to be searching for a HC, but he needs to start being a better HC

[Goldendawg]

Our PPG in SEC games only is 24.0. 4 OOC victories, 3 cupcakes, and a miracle against AZ ST, but that's improvement as we didn't get embarrassed like against Toledo last year. An Ole Miss upset could turn the trajectory of our program around in so many ways for 2026.

[Coach34]

Our PPG in SEC games only is 24.0. 4 OOC victories, 3 cupcakes, and a miracle against AZ ST, but that's improvement as we didn't get embarrassed like against Toledo last year. An Ole Miss upset could turn the trajectory of our program around in so many ways for 2026.

Its actually 26.9 in SEC games and thats tied for 7th in the SEC- top half of the conference

That is also 3rd best the last 10 years and one of the best in school history

You are watching one of the best offenses our school has ever had no matter how u spin it

https://cfbstats.com/2025/leader/911...09/sort01.html

and to pile on- only 4 other SEC teams have scored more TD's in SEC play than we have. Helluva offensive year for us and Shapen

[Goldendawg]

Its actually 26.9 in SEC games and thats tied for 7th in the SEC- top half of the conference

That is also 3rd best the last 10 years and one of the best in school history

You are watching one of the best offenses our school has ever had no matter how u spin it

https://cfbstats.com/2025/leader/911...09/sort01.html

My bad, I got my info from SEC rant and it wasn't up to date.

[Maroon Glasses]

Our PPG in SEC games only is 24.0. 4 OOC victories, 3 cupcakes, and a miracle against AZ ST, but that's improvement as we didn't get embarrassed like against Toledo last year. An Ole Miss upset could turn the trajectory of our program around in so many ways for 2026.

An upset would be huge for 2036.. especially if KT is the guy who leads us there. I feel like him having a good game or leading us to the gane winning drive would really kick start fan support going into next year. Atleast I would be pumped about it if he was the guy who lead the charge.