Kamario or bust

[Coach34]

So does Orgeron and Les Miles.

Yep.

Orgeron is 67-47 as a HC
Miles is 108-73 as a HC (105-55 before the Kansas debacle)

[Quaoarsking]

Miles is really 145-73, with 37 vacated wins.

[DownwardDawg]

Yep.

Orgeron is 67-47 as a HC
Miles is 108-73 as a HC (105-55 before the Kansas debacle)

Orgeron is an idiot. I actually liked Les Miles. He was fun to have in the SEC. LSU won despite orgeron.

[parabrave]

Rusell was probably the first legit QB talent that we had on campus in many of these younger dudes lifetimes. And I'm just talking skill at throwing the football. Unfortunately for Tyler, he just didn't fit in Mullen's scheme. He could have shattered the MSU record books if he had come along in 2000.

Kevin Fant was MSUs 1st real 4-5 star QB. He had a great 1st year then got slaughtered the rest of his career behind so me really bad OLines. Also got screwed over by some OM POS tire store owner.

[Todd4State]

Kevin Fant was MSUs 1st real 4-5 star QB. He had a great 1st year then got slaughtered the rest of his career behind so me really bad OLines. Also got screwed over by some OM POS tire store owner.

The 2001 Egg Bowl performance was pretty awesome though.

[War Machine Dawg]

Kevin Fant was MSUs 1st real 4-5 star QB. He had a great 1st year then got slaughtered the rest of his career behind so me really bad OLines. Also got screwed over by some OM POS tire store owner.

If Fant had been about 3 years older and started on the 98, 99, and 2000 teams, we'd have won a major bowl game, maybe even a natty.

ETA: Kinda doing Todd Jordan dirty, too. Believe he would've been an equivalent to a 4-5 start QB at the time he came out of HS. But we haven't had many, that's for sure.

[justwin]

I start Kamario first snap of season and I even name him starter a week before USM. I potentially bring shapen in every 3rd series for first few games to give kamario a breather. If Kamario plays all 12 games, MSU will win 6+. you have to play the best players and Kamario has all of the tools, intelligence, enrolled early, and winning pedigree. you see this every year when coaches pick the wrong QB wasting the first half of the season. Look at Lagway last year at UF and all of the wasted reps with Mertz. then, look at beamer starting Sellers game 1 and they won 9 last year inlcuding clemson which was bold and smart by Beamer. what beamer did was incredibly rare and it saved his job. Kamario needs all of the reps of the first four games to be ready to win the 3 of the last 6. this is the only take worth having on this upcoming season. I doubt I watch any games unless Kamario plays and I know most MSU fans feel the same. Kamario would be hell in Lebby's offense, probably better than the guy who signed with auburn from oklahoma.

Bump.

bringing the most important take of this season back to the top. it's good to read through the comments now that we're heading into last game, some of which were spot on, some with the same tired arguemtn of redshirting, too young, bad OL, etc.

Look at the 11 game log, kamario basically didn't play the first six games (wasted) of the season and had 3 total pass attempts the first six games and those were vs Alcorn where was 2/3. then, 1/1 vs TX, 2/5 vs Ark, 6/10 vs UGA, and 4/5 vs Miz.

If you look at total defense stats on secsports, OM is #6 giving up 27 / game. Miz is #1, UGA #4, TX #5. So, Kamario has now played and been successful against better defenses. the UGA game was basically a walk through of the upcomign EB with an 11a start vs a top D and we all see how well KT did vs UGA when given all the snaps in the 2H.

on the flip side on secsports.com , OM is #3 in scoring offense at 37 pts / game with Tenn #1 at 43 / game. MSU is #9 at 31.5 pts / game. Obvsiuoly, those stats likely skewed for everyone with nonconf blowout scores.

Saying all of that, Kamario needs to get every single snap in the EB. every single snap. We've all seen his talent & leadership shine first hand especially this last month. kamario is legit and could bring the golden egg home. Had Kamario received the majority of reps the first six games we're likely at 8 wins right now.

nonetheless, we'll see what Lebby "decides", but the best decision should have already been made.

hail state

[Maroon Glasses]

Bump.

bringing the most important take of this season back to the top. it's good to read through the comments now that we're heading into last game, some of which were spot on, some with the same tired arguemtn of redshirting, too young, bad OL, etc.

Look at the 11 game log, kamario basically didn't play the first six games (wasted) of the season and had 3 total pass attempts the first six games and those were vs Alcorn where was 2/3. then, 1/1 vs TX, 2/5 vs Ark, 6/10 vs UGA, and 4/5 vs Miz.

If you look at total defense stats on secsports, OM is #6 giving up 27 / game. Miz is #1, UGA #4, TX #5. So, Kamario has now played and been successful against better defenses. the UGA game was basically a walk through of the upcomign EB with an 11a start vs a top D and we all see how well KT did vs UGA when given all the snaps in the 2H.

on the flip side on secsports.com , OM is #3 in scoring offense at 37 pts / game with Tenn #1 at 43 / game. MSU is #9 at 31.5 pts / game. Obvsiuoly, those stats likely skewed for everyone with nonconf blowout scores.

Saying all of that, Kamario needs to get every single snap in the EB. every single snap. We've all seen his talent & leadership shine first hand especially this last month. kamario is legit and could bring the golden egg home. Had Kamario received the majority of reps the first six games we're likely at 8 wins right now.

nonetheless, we'll see what Lebby "decides", but the best decision should have already been made.

hail state

Hard to argue with this. I'm hoping KT starts but I don't think he will. Shapen will be the guy barring something crazy. It would be HUGE for the program if KT starts or plays significantly and leads us to a win. Fans would be bought in for 2026.

[Leroy Jenkins]

I would be shocked if Shapen doesn?t start in the last game he?ll probably ever play. After the first drive all bets are off though.

[Dawgface]

Lebby will go down with the ship with Shapen at the helm. No reason to think he will change now.

[Doggie_Style]

Lebby will go down with the ship with Shapen at the helm. No reason to think he will change now.

LEBBY ONLY HAS ONE GAME / Lose left in 2025. .... he won't be fired because we are Poverty U ...... get ready for more of the same in 2026 and keep donating to NIL***

[parabrave]

Lebby will go down with the ship with Shapen at the helm. No reason to think he will change now.

This.

[Coach34]

LEBBY ONLY HAS ONE GAME / Lose left in 2025. .... he won't be fired because we are Poverty U ...... get ready for more of the same in 2026 and keep donating to NIL***

Considering this year is one of the best offenses in school history- I dont really blame him