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What does a good team cost?
There is a 5 star in state kid who?s asking price is just over 1 million. So if you apply that to a two deep roster that is roughly 45 million for a competitive team.
What is the price tag for a playoff team? I?d say a minimum of 30 million with 45 million being a guarantee. Granted this is indicative of getting the right value for the price.
Lastly, talking about alumni- we have 150,000 living alumni. If we could get $100 a month from each alum, that would equal 180 million a year. Take 80 and give to nil/athletics and 100 to academics/endowment. State can be a powerhouse. We just have leadership and drive to unite us and get us moving together.
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Look at Texas Tech. They literally bought a contending team in 1 offseason. Cost them around $30 million. SEC probably a bit more expensive but sounds like we are in the wheelhouse.
As far as giving goes we need 1 big guy to come out and be the face of NIL. Fanbase will follow once they know we have a starting ground, right or wrong thats how the schools that excel in NIL have done it
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$25MM just to get to 8 wins
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
$25MM just to get to 8 wins
Isn?t our revenue share allocation close to 20 million. I realize scholarships count toward revenue share. That?s been an argument of mine against funding 105 scholarships. We should only fund about 75-80. Focus the money on a smaller roster. We HAVE to do things differently.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Isn?t our revenue share allocation close to 20 million. I realize scholarships count toward revenue share. That?s been an argument of mine against funding 105 scholarships. We should only fund about 75-80. Focus the money on a smaller roster. We HAVE to do things differently.
Rev share gives us $15MM along with the rest of the SEC. That helps vs Arizona St and Houston- but it doesnt help vs SEC schools. SEC will drop another 20MM on top of the Rev-Share. They will build the best rosters possible to keep winning
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Rev share gives us $15MM along with the rest of the SEC. That helps vs Arizona St and Houston- but it doesnt help vs SEC schools. SEC will drop another 20MM on top of the Rev-Share. They will build the best rosters possible to keep winning
So we have to come up with an extra 10 million every single year in NIL to compete. Thats rough.
Helluva job by Lebby this year making us competitive.
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Finding a single wealthy Saudi Arabia prince who?s willing to marry a 220lb hairy dude. I don?t want to say I know a guy, but I know a guy
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Ok everybody i suggest you go watch moneyball because msu and alot if other schools are the oakland As and thats just reality. Plus get a good coach and a good scouting dept that can find and develop that talent. Mississippi schools font have big oil, big tech or we wont raid childrens hospitals. We just lawyers and some rich pro players
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Originally Posted by
parabrave
Ok everybody i suggest you go watch moneyball because msu and alot if other schools are the oakland As and thats just reality. Plus get a good coach and a good scouting dept that can find and develop that talent. Mississippi schools font have big oil, big tech or we wont raid childrens hospitals. We just lawyers and some rich pro players
Great example para! This is our problem
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Originally Posted by
parabrave
Ok everybody i suggest you go watch moneyball because msu and alot if other schools are the oakland As and thats just reality. Plus get a good coach and a good scouting dept that can find and develop that talent. Mississippi schools font have big oil, big tech or we wont raid childrens hospitals. We just lawyers and some rich pro players
develop talent? why would thoes players stay at MSU if we aren't going to pay them? Moneyball does not work in the current landscape
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Originally Posted by
DEDawg
develop talent? why would thoes players stay at MSU if we aren't going to pay them? Moneyball does not work in the current landscape
This 100%. They get paid, win or lose. My son and I saw a player and a coach arguing very loudly about the player's NIL at the Sprint Mart here in Starkville beside the pumps, (player was gassing up his Dodge Challenger BTW, LOL, second only to the Charger in NIL popularity****). The coach saw that they were drawing attention and rolled up his window and stepped behind the driver's side door while saying, "Do your job and we will talk about your NIL". The game has changed.
Players deserve to be paid and the corrupt NCAA and HC multi-million salaries and even bigger buyouts when they fail has helped bring this on. This Pandora's Box will never be closed.
Even the NFL has salary caps and contracts. This will bring stability to college sports. I no longer watch the NFL unless Dak is playing and I hated the Cowboys before his becoming their starting QB.
We will be attending our last game of the 2025 season as season ticket holders and I still don't know the names of about half of our players by their numbers.
Last edited by Goldendawg; 11-20-2025 at 11:01 AM.
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Originally Posted by
DEDawg
develop talent? why would thoes players stay at MSU if we aren't going to pay them? Moneyball does not work in the current landscape
I think his point is that we will never be able to pay for the high end players so we have to find the cheaper under the radar players that the big dogs over looked and develop and refine them while paying a lesser amount than what the polished one cost...
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Originally Posted by
BorneDawg
I think his point is that we will never be able to pay for the high end players so we have to find the cheaper under the radar players that the big dogs over looked and develop and refine them while paying a lesser amount than what the polished one cost...
We did a good job of that this offseason but you?re going to have to pony up for a LT and for a legit Dlinemen bc there aren?t many of those guys walking the earth.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
We did a good job of that this offseason but you?re going to have to pony up for a LT and for a legit Dlinemen bc there aren?t many of those guys walking the earth.
This. Winning and losing is decided in the trenches
Can you run the ball when you need to?
Can you pass protect?
Can you slow down the run?
Can you pressure the other QB to help your Secondary?
The answers to those questions right there tell you how good your team is
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
This. Winning and losing is decided in the trenches
Can you run the ball when you need to?
Can you pass protect?
Can you slow down the run?
Can you pressure the other QB to help your Secondary?
The answers to those questions right there tell you how good your team is
Don’t bring that common sense business around here. I’m not gonna let you get away with that.
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Originally Posted by
Pinto
There is a 5 star in state kid who?s asking price is just over 1 million. So if you apply that to a two deep roster that is roughly 45 million for a competitive team.
What is the price tag for a playoff team? I?d say a minimum of 30 million with 45 million being a guarantee. Granted this is indicative of getting the right value for the price.
Lastly, talking about alumni- we have 150,000 living alumni. If we could get $100 a month from each alum, that would equal 180 million a year. Take 80 and give to nil/athletics and 100 to academics/endowment. State can be a powerhouse. We just have leadership and drive to unite us and get us moving together.
Assume we lose egg, we should have finished 8-4. I'd say that is a good team - what did we spend for that?
Now a NC or great or elite team that is another question?
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
We did a good job of that this offseason but you?re going to have to pony up for a LT and for a legit Dlinemen bc there aren?t many of those guys walking the earth.
I agree with that we need to step up for a couple big players
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
$25MM just to get to 8 wins
$25 million to get to 6 wins for us.
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