Dawgs v Cyclones MBK game thread

[EdwardDrayton]

And they're long as hell, shoot well, drive well. They're #16 for a reason. We're unranked with good reason, too

We're not small though.

[HoopsDawg]

Yeah, it is. He's playing 11 a ton so Jans obviously thinks he has some potential. Lots of new faces still coming together. Epps is out tonight. And last of all, this IsU team looks pretty good

Im able to evaluate the players beyond just looking at the results. But if Epps comes back that?s a degree of hope.

[BeardoMSU]

Hot take...I obviously like 12, but our offense the way its constructed isn't very good unless he's dropping 40 every night. I kinda hoped he moved on after last season so we could get more balanced and force Jans to develop some semblance of something else...

[msstate7]

No doubt this is concerning. We have upperclassmen, against a top 20 team and we're not even competitive thus far.

While true, they returned 3/5 starters and a starter from Virginia.

[msstate7]

Im able to evaluate the players beyond just looking at the results. But if Epps comes back that?s a degree of hope.

You said 11 was good/great the other night, and he was absolutely horrible tonight. The sample is too small

[EdwardDrayton]

While true, they returned 3/5 starters and a starter from Virginia.

Understand, but eighteen turnovers as a team and 29 points out of a three guard lineup.

[HoopsDawg]

Hot take...I obviously like 12, but our offense the way its constructed isn't very good unless he's dropping 40 every night. I kinda hoped he moved on after last season so we could get more balanced and force Jans to develop some semblance of something else...

Thats not a hot take, just a horrible take.

[msstate7]

Understand, but eighteen turnovers as a team and 29 points out of a three guard lineup.

No one is saying we're good. I'm worried. All I'm saying is it's way too early to say what we have 1 way or the other

[BeardoMSU]

Thats not a hot take, just a horrible take.

Ok, guru...

[HoopsDawg]

You said 11 was good/great the other night, and he was absolutely horrible tonight. The sample is too small

I said 11 had potential. I never said he was great.

[chef dixon]

The bottom line is we haven't had enough guard play with Jans. Ball handling, ball movement and shooting are the problems consistently with his teams

[HoopsDawg]

Ok, guru...

You just said you wished Hubbard had moved on. You dont have to be a guru to know that?s a stupid statement.

[BeardoMSU]

You just said you wished Hubbard had moved on. You dont have to be a guru to know that?s a stupid statement.

I said hes our only scoring option...and if hes not lights out we lose. And him being undersized and poor defensively compounds the issue. Obviously.

[msstate7]

The smu game at home is when I think we will know whether this team has a shot this season. That gives them 2 cupcakes and a decent team to gel against

[Thick]

It is early, BUT defense is all about getting after it, hustle, energy, staying in position defensively, and the desire to force your will on the opponent. Jans and staff has a lot a work to do on both ends of the court!

[EdwardDrayton]

No one is saying we're good. I'm worried. All I'm saying is it's way too early to say what we have 1 way or the other

Definitely too early to say what we have but obviously we didn't come to show what we have.

[msstate7]

Jones 5 TO
Hubbard 7 TO
Warren 4 TO

3 of our few returning players are killing us

[tcdog70]

15 is pretty disappointing.

[HoopsDawg]

The smu game at home is when I think we will know whether this team has a shot this season. That gives them 2 cupcakes and a decent team to gel against

I love the optimism. We are not good.

[msstate7]

Ali in the game